Scientists suggest that cancer is purely man-made
October 14, 2010
Dividing Cancer Cells. Image: University of Birmingham
(PhysOrg.com) -- Cancer is a modern, man-made disease caused by environmental factors such as pollution and diet, a study by University of Manchester scientists has strongly suggested.
The study of remains and literature from ancient Egypt and Greece and earlier periods carried out at Manchesters KNH Centre for Biomedical Egyptology and published in Nature Reviews Cancer includes the first histological diagnosis of cancer in an Egyptian mummy.
Finding only one case of the disease in the investigation of hundreds of Egyptian mummies, with few references to cancer in literary evidence, proves that cancer was extremely rare in antiquity. The disease rate has risen massively since the Industrial Revolution, in particular childhood cancer proving that the rise is not simply due to people living longer.
Professor Rosalie David, at the Faculty of Life Sciences, said: In industrialised societies, cancer is second only to cardiovascular disease as a cause of death. But in ancient times, it was extremely rare. There is nothing in the natural environment that can cause cancer. So it has to be a man-made disease, down to pollution and changes to our diet and lifestyle.
She added: The important thing about our study is that it gives a historical perspective to this disease. We can make very clear statements on the cancer rates in societies because we have a full overview. We have looked at millennia, not one hundred years, and have masses of data.
The data includes the first ever histological diagnosis of cancer in an Egyptian mummy by Professor Michael Zimmerman, a visiting Professor at the KNH Centre, who is based at the Villanova University in the US. He diagnosed rectal cancer in an unnamed mummy, an ordinary person who had lived in the Dakhleh Oasis during the Ptolemaic period (200-400 CE).
Professor Zimmerman said: In an ancient society lacking surgical intervention, evidence of cancer should remain in all cases. The virtual absence of malignancies in mummies must be interpreted as indicating their rarity in antiquity, indicating that cancer causing factors are limited to societies affected by modern industrialization.
The team studied both mummified remains and literary evidence for ancient Egypt but only literary evidence for ancient Greece as there are no remains for this period, as well as medical studies of human and animal remains from earlier periods, going back to the age of the dinosaurs.
Evidence of cancer in animal fossils, non-human primates and early humans is scarce a few dozen, mostly disputed, examples in animal fossils, although a metastatic cancer of unknown primary origin has been reported in an Edmontosaurus fossil while another study lists a number of possible neoplasms in fossil remains. Various malignancies have been reported in non-human primates but do not include many of the cancers most commonly identified in modern adult humans.
It has been suggested that the short life span of individuals in antiquity precluded the development of cancer. Although this statistical construct is true, individuals in ancient Egypt and Greece did live long enough to develop such diseases as atherosclerosis, Paget's disease of bone, and osteoporosis, and, in modern populations, bone tumours primarily affect the young.
Another explanation for the lack of tumours in ancient remains is that tumours might not be well preserved. Dr. Zimmerman has performed experimental studies indicating that mummification preserves the features of malignancy and that tumours should actually be better preserved than normal tissues. In spite of this finding, hundreds of mummies from all areas of the world have been examined and there are still only two publications showing microscopic confirmation of cancer. Radiological surveys of mummies from the Cairo Museum and museums in Europe have also failed to reveal evidence of cancer.
As the team moved through the ages, it was not until the 17th century that they found descriptions of operations for breast and other cancers and the first reports in scientific literature of distinctive tumours have only occurred in the past 200 years, such as scrotal cancer in chimney sweeps in 1775, nasal cancer in snuff users in 1761 and Hodgkins disease in 1832.
Professor David who was invited to present her paper to UK Cancer Czar Professor Mike Richards and other oncologists at this years UK Association of Cancer Registries and National Cancer Intelligence Network conference said: Where there are cases of cancer in ancient Egyptian remains, we are not sure what caused them. They did heat their homes with fires, which gave off smoke, and temples burned incense, but sometimes illnesses are just thrown up.
She added: The ancient Egyptian data offers both physical and literary evidence, giving a unique opportunity to look at the diseases they had and the treatments they tried. They were the fathers of pharmacology so some treatments did work
They were very inventive and some treatments thought of as magical were genuine therapeutic remedies. For example, celery was used to treat rheumatism back then and is being investigated today. Their surgery and the binding of fractures were excellent because they knew their anatomy: there was no taboo on working with human bodies because of mummification. They were very hands on and it gave them a different mindset to working with bodies than the Greeks, who had to come to Alexandria to study medicine.
She concluded: Yet again extensive ancient Egyptian data, along with other data from across the millennia, has given modern society a clear message cancer is man-made and something that we can and should address.
More information: A copy of the paper Cancer: an old disease, a new disease or something in between? is available at http://www.nature. … nrc2914.html
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I'm not sure about the title here, it feels as if it is trying too hard to sensationalize the findings.
If I were to stay out in the sun too much and get a deadly skin cancer, I understand it was my choice, my free will to be out in the sun. However, I'd be hard pressed to call that cancer 'man made'.
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Care to share? I presume it an option available to all if they can and do accept?
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The people who were mummified were often nobility who didn't have to deal with things such as rock dust in a quarry.
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[sarc]What 'fall of man'? Do you mean the 'fall of Woman'? And the temptation of Man by the scarlet hussy? [/sarc]
Oh, and you are wrong, on many levels. Humanity is on the verge of curing death. So there :p
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"An historic" is correct in the rebellious colonies.
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Not when talking about "a perspective". Historical is not the subject. This is a grey area in American English where grammatically "an amorphous blob" is correct, but "a hysterical joke" is also correct. H sound adjectives can be used either way correctly based upon the starting sound of the subject.
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Whut?
What about the Aflatoxins produced by many of the funghi of the Aspergillus type? AFAIK some of the most potent carcinogens around...
Or Aristolochic acid which is produced by certain plants used in some herbal medicines
That statement is so epically wrong i even made an account to comment!
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Proves?
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Absoulte morons!!!!
Nothing constructive to say to do so would mean actually taking them seriously. lol
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That's what I thought and I knew the author was going to neglect it.
I think it will be proven that a group of factor most likely cause cancer. Compounds that are mutagenic and compounds that damage immune response and inherited factors and viruses, all in concert are the killer.
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Newly-evolved viruses and other pathogens which resulted from close contact with animals, and which the species hasnt had enough time to adapt to, are being implicated in susceptibility to cancer-causing agents which would normally not affect us.
Radiation- Radon from basements, coal-fired heaters, and of course nuclear tests have also contributed-
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This is exactly what I thought of as well. Most people don't get cancer until later in life. These mummies are probably mostly less than 40 years old.
I think these researchers are grasping to hard for the answer that they are looking for.
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Sure, there may be more cancers now than then, but how can we be sure based upon scanty fossil evidence?
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How about the Sun? How about virii? There are several that have been linked to cancers of various sorts. These all occur in nature.
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The increase in the occurence of cancer is most likely due to genetic mutations from drastic environmental changes, ie a lack of time to adapt.
Let us just be glad that slavery has shown a downward trend since ancient egypt.
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Man may have amplified its exposure risk due to modern products and life, and coupled with our modern medicine which can detect cancer in the first place it would naturally elevate the number of cases. I dont see the correlation that it is thus all "man-made"...
Elements like Lead are carcinogenic if ingested verses say Radon which is inhaled and has one of the highest risk factors associated with it. It's also very difficult to remediate.
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Ancient Egypt was B.C. - "Before Christ." Modern day is A.D. - "Anno Domini," or "In the year of the Lord".
Ergo, Jesus causes cancer.
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Transhumanism:
http://humanitypl...ist-faq/
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Suggesting that cancer is a modern illness does have merit, however.
Certainly our lifestyles and the "supplements" we ingest compromise our immune systems to the point that mutated cells, ie cancer, seem to be the norm rather than the exception thesedays.
As the man said, "It's just good business!"
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But, many of us do find it acceptable to encode our brain into a robot/machine.
I think if you examine your concept of immortality, you will find it very shallow and brittle. A world of no change and no decay ... is basically equivalent to death. A world of change is not compatible with individual immortality.
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"Stumbled upon an article in a Canadian newspaper that may explain why the ancients didn't get a lot of cancers: http://goo.gl/LMJe "
Hey, thanks for the link. I remember reading about febrile reactions some time ago in Scientific American, I think, but couldn't remember the particulars. You may be on to something.
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It's not how long you live, but how WELL you live.
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Reading this article these exact thoughts were running through my mind. When there are more ways to die then there will automatically be less cancer.
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I think your industrialization is overrated.Maybe hes like the fireman who goes around setting fires so he can put them out -?
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Scientific Atheists? So what about unscientific Atheists or scientific theists? Is is just unscientific theists who know the secret? Guess what, we're going to beat this "death sentence" from your god. Then maybe you'll finally put your childish god toys away and grow up. You say the absolute dumbest things, Really. The fact that you bow down on your knee's and accept a death sentence from a deity who screwed up everything in the first place and blames humans for it is disgusting. Grow some balls and take command of this universe instead of praising a celestial terrorist.
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i wish we never discovered how to make glaucoma, arthritis, or enlarged prostates!
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That's bullshit, smoke inhalation from a forest/camp fire wouldn't have caused lung cancer? The sun's UV rays didn't cause skin cancer before the Industrial Revolution?
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http://www.cancer...-present
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This statement So completely and totally wrong I am amazed that this is on physorg.
People forget the "natural environment" IS deadly. Contaminates in water like arsenic (100% natural) WILL cause cancer, The SUN again (100% natural) will cause cancer, etc ,etc ,etc . . also OMGs people live 2-3 times longer now then in the past. environmental cancer takes a long time to develop . . get it yet? and you can go on and on ripping this poor research up with ease.
LAME
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Makes me wonder how thoroughly some universities vet proposed research.
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Maybe some other language(s) is more efficient in this respect.
Oct 17, 2010
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Don't shoot the messenger..
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We've increased the risk of cancers. Especially in the parts of the world I'm in. CFC's have created a hole above us where ozone used to be.
The article has just been sensationalised. I doubt it was written with such sweeping statements initially.
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Consequently whether you use an "a" before these words or an "an" has tended to become somewhat arbitrary.
Unless it appears clumsy I prefer to us "an" before most words that start with an aitch (h).
Oct 18, 2010
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We all have cancerous cells in our body but our immune system usually destroys these cells.
In the past, it was a case of survival of the fittest. Those with strong immune systems, or the right genetic code, were far more likely to survive and reproduce. Now, with antibiotics, successful treatment of childhood cancer, vaccines, etc people with weaker immune systems are not falling to disease in their youth, but surviving, thriving and reproducing.
I would not have lived past 10 if it were not for medical intervention in an otherwise fatal illness. But I survived and now have 3 beautiful children.
Perhaps our ability to save the lives of the genetically less prepared is a big factor in increased cancer rates. Just a thought.
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Four particularly obvious flaws here.
First, mummy preservation removes or masks traces of many cancers.
Second, mummification was not for everyone in Egypt; nor was everyone's mummification handled the same.
Third, I seriously doubt enough mummies have been clinically checked for cancer to validate the statement that it was rare.
Fourth, Many cancers kill in old age. By our definition of old age, not by ancient Egypt's definition.
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However despite the fact that you and many others have through modern medicine survived what 100 years ago would have been a fatal condition does not necessarily mean that you have passed a defective gene to your children.
The beauty of human pairing is that one partner may have a weak or recessive gene that is countered by their partner.
The problems get worse when both partners have the same recessive gene.
Unless your condition was a very common one then it is unlikely that your wife would share the same genetic propensity.
But yes, modern medicine keeps people alive who would not otherwise have survived to procreate and in some cases it may be some of these people who contribute to higher current statistics in various disease areas.
Someone should have a look at this and other hereditary influences on their statistics.
Enjoy your children, they are the best thing that can happen to any person.
Oct 18, 2010
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However, we should also acknowledge just how much of cancer really is either man made, or else exacerbated by the activities of man.
Just off the tops of our heads, many of us can list several major carcinogens or teratogens which either have been in common use, or continue to be in common use:
Asbestos
Tobacco
Alcohol
Marijauna (30 times more than tobacco)
Artificial sweeteners
carbonated water
Dioxin (used to make PVC pipe)
There are probably any number of household chemicals and food additives which cause or contribute to cancer, and we just don't know about it.
What about that new carpet smell? That stuff takes two weeks to go away.
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"While there were no known cases of cancer when Dr Albert Schweitzer first went to in Gabon, he noted sadly that: 'In the course of the years we have seen cases of cancer in growing numbers in our region. My observations incline me to attribute this to the fact that the natives were living more and more after the manner of the whites...'"
-If you look you may find more info on this-
Oct 18, 2010
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Exodus 9:27 found phrase
And Pharao sent and called Moses and Aaron, saying to them: I have sinned this time also; the Lord is just: I and my people are wicked.
And here is what Einstein said about it:
“As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise, I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca...2zORqUC2
Power causes cancer, or knowledge since Sir Francis Bacon wrote knowledge is power.
Oct 19, 2010
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Interesting that you make a religious reference and follow with a cherry picked Einstein quote.
More interesting are Einstein's views on religion itself(from your link):
"[T]he word 'God' is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Concerning Jewish religion itself:
"For me, the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions"
So are you (getgoa) on board with Einstein's views on religion(s) as well as his take on cancer?
(btw, I can see why this letter fetched $330k USD, given its content.)
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