Texas light bulb bill would skirt federal plan
June 14, 2011 By Anna M. TinsleyTexas could soon be in a position to turn the lights off on a federal plan to phase out certain light bulbs.
State lawmakers have passed a bill that allows Texans to skirt federal efforts to promote more efficient light bulbs, which ultimately pushes the swirled, compact fluorescent bulbs over the 100-watt incandescent bulbs many grew up with.
The measure, sent to Gov. Rick Perry for consideration, lets any incandescent light bulb manufactured in Texas - and sold in that state - avoid the authority of the federal government or the repeal of the 2007 energy independence act that starts phasing out some incandescent light bulbs next year.
"Let there be light," state Rep. George Lavender, R-Texarkana, wrote on Facebook after the bill passed. "It will allow the continued manufacture and sale of incandescent light bulbs in Texas, even after the federal ban goes into effect. ... It's a good day for Texas."
The Natural Resources Defense Council, a New York-based environmental group, is calling on Perry to veto the bill.
"The Texas legislation is designed to showcase the state's independence," said Bob Keefe, senior press secretary with the council. "But what it really shows off is how some politicians in the Lone Star State will do anything to score political points - even if it means echoing misinformation and wasting time and money passing legislation that can't practically be implemented and isn't in the best interest of constituents."
Perry has until Sunday to veto bills, sign them into law or let them become law without his signature.
Lavender has described his House Bill 2510 as a common-sense bill.
"The 'new and improved' compact fluorescent light bulbs don't work as promised, are significantly more expensive as are the LEDs and have environmental and disposal problems due to the mercury they contain," according to a statement from his office.
The goal of the bill is to make incandescent light bulbs manufactured in Texas - that are sold in Texas and don't leave the state - not subject to federal law or federal rules. Such a bulb would have to have "Made in Texas" clearly imprinted somewhere on it. There are no estimates of how many incandescent light bulbs are manufactured in Texas.
If the bill becomes law, it would go into effect Jan. 1 and would apply to light bulbs made from that day forward.
U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, is trying to repeal the 2007 energy independence act passed by Congress and signed into law by President George W. Bush.
The federal act doesn't ban incandescent light bulbs, but it creates new standards for them, such as requiring 100-watt bulbs to be 25 percent more efficient. After that, similar changes will go into effect for 75-, 60- and 40-watt bulbs. The goal is to make the bulbs more energy efficient because much of the traditional bulbs' energy leaves the bulb as heat rather than as light.
The act requires the changes or essentially removes incandescent light bulbs from the market by 2014, leaving consumers to mostly use fluorescent bulbs, which some say are more energy efficient and others say are just more expensive.
"People don't want the government dictating the lighting they can use," Barton said. "Traditional incandescent bulbs have been brightening the night since Thomas Edison created the first one in 1879. They are safe, cheap and reliable."
The U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee may soon hold a hearing on energy efficiency and could include Barton's BULB act.
"I am happy that the state Legislature voted to keep incandescent lights on in Texas, but the state wouldn't have to get involved if the federal government would just butt out," Barton said.
For some, the Texas bill represents this state's efforts to claim sovereignty from the federal government, proving that Texas has the right to regulate some commercial activities conducted only in this state.
"Telling Texans what types of light bulbs they can manufacture, sell, purchase and use is not the proper role of the federal government," said Janise Cookston, a spokeswoman for the Wharton-based nonprofit group "We Texans," which works to protect "private property, personal and economic liberty" as well as constitutional government.
"This bill sends the message to Washington that Texas will no longer sit idly by and take unconstitutional intrusion into our lives."
Some say they worry about fluorescent bulbs because they contain mercury, a toxic metal linked to birth defects and behavioral disorders. Estimates show the average bulb has 4 to 5 milligrams of mercury, enough to cover the tip of a ballpoint pin. No mercury is emitted while the bulbs are in use, but vapors can escape if a bulb breaks.
Supporters also say fluorescent bulbs can cost more than $3 each; incandescent bulbs can cost as little as 35 cents each.
Opponents say the health risks of the mercury are minimal. And they say the bill violates the constitutional clause that states the federal law is the "supreme law of the land."
They say the state can't prevent a light bulb from being taken across a state line, which would make it subject to interstate commerce rules and federal regulation. They also say incandescent bulbs are archaic and have been replaced by fluorescent bulbs that last longer, are more environmentally friendly and don't create the same fire hazards incandescent bulbs do.
"Nobody is forcing anybody to use only compact florescent bulbs," said Keefe, of the NRDC. "Several manufacturers are already making incandescent bulbs that have the same lighting quality as old-school incandescents that we all know and use. It's just that newer, more efficient versions use 25-30 percent less energy - saving the average Texas household an estimated $100 per year and reducing overall Texas energy bills by more than $900 million."
Officials with Osram Sylvania, a popular producer of incandescent light bulbs, declined to comment on Texas' bill. But the company noted that it has developed a more efficient incandescent bulb called the Sylvania SuperSaver that will meet the new federal requirements.
GE, meanwhile, is moving forward to fill the demand for fluorescent bulbs.
Officials there say demand for traditional incandescent bulbs has declined and consumers have switched to more efficient lighting.
"As policymakers consider changes to current legislation, we hope they keep in mind that repeal of national standards would result in states establishing their own standards," said Kim Freeman, a spokeswoman for GE Appliances & Lighting. "That could create a patchwork of inconsistent standards across the nation that would mean increased manufacturing and distribution costs, higher prices for consumers and lost sales for retailers."
(c) 2011, Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune Information Services.
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Jun 14, 2011
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Seems to me CFL's should be phased out before incandescent and LED's phased in now. Problem solved. Just provide recycling for the LED bulbs at all points of sale.
Jun 14, 2011
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Jun 14, 2011
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Amen to that!
Moebius said:
How about not phasing anything out (by which I assume you mean have the law dictate what is or is not available), and letting the market take care of it?
Much as I hate, hate, hate CFL bulbs, I understand that some people like them (no accounting for taste, apparently). I say let them buy them if they like, and grant the rest of us the same privilege. I'll stick with incandescent bulbs, and be yet again grateful to God above that I live in Texas.
Jun 14, 2011
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Nonsense. This is a 10th Amendment issue, not an Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 one.
Nonsense. Someone should explain to these unnamed "opponents" what "interstate commerce" actually means, i.e "trade that takes places across state lines". Buying something in-state and then bringing it across state lines for yourself doesnt count. You just cant legally resell it.
The idea that simply taking your own property across state lines makes it subject to federal trade regulations is a political tactic intended to grow federal power. Big surprise, huh?
Jun 14, 2011
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http://en.wikiped..._Filburn
Jun 15, 2011
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Jun 15, 2011
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Jun 15, 2011
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Banning Incandescent bulbs, an exceptionally good decision, will free up the equivalent of 20 or so electric generating stations nationally. That power can either be taken off line - in the case of coal burning facilities, or re-tasked to other purposes.
Those Conservatives who whine that they will continue to use Incandescent bulbs are in effect arguing that they will continue to send tens of billions of dollars to America's oil producing friends in the middle east.
Republicans are traitors to the core.
Jun 15, 2011
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Sorry ConservaTard but you don't even know your own constitution.
The regulation of interstate commerce is clearly a federally mandated function of the U.S. constitution. And as such your reference to the 10th amendment is completely not applicable because they are powers delegated to the United States.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." - 10th ammendment
In general, the more you see some Conservative American whining about the federal government violating the constitution, the more ignorant or dishonest that Conservative is regarding the constitution.
Jun 15, 2011
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They need to be phased out. The market never has and never will do even an adequate job of policing itself when it comes to safety.
Jun 15, 2011
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My father had an allergic reaction/neurological disorder that causes him coordination problems. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with him and did virtually every test they could think of. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of tests.
During this time period he broke a CFL by trying to twist it by the bulb (lol). Not just that, he then vacuumed it up (which the package says not to do! OMG!).
Back to the tests. His mercury was tested about a month after this as part of the battery of tests they were giving him. His mercury was exceptionally low.
The point is CFLs have very little mercury and unless you are breaking them open routinely and huffing them I doubt you have any health risk. I think the hysteria comes from the older, larger bulbs that have more mercury, and the fact that having just about any amount of mercury in something will earn it a hazmat label.
Have any of you called poison control over swallowing Listerine or tooth paste? Read the labels
Jun 15, 2011
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The key was that "failure to regulate that class of activity would undercut the regulation of the interstate market", but if there is no "interstate market" then regulations of it can't be undercut. We're not talking "black market" here.
I'd love Wickard to be overturned, but even if it never is, a "United States v. Morrison (2000)"-based argument can be made that it doesn't apply here.
Jun 15, 2011
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You may be correct, but CFL require a separate disposal path in most communities.
You are not supposed to just toss them into the bin when they burn out. Another regulation.
Jun 15, 2011
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Governor Rick Perry has decided to sign Bill allowing the light bulbs in Texas
Unofficial as yet...
freedomlightbulb.blogspot.com
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Jun 19, 2011
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Jun 20, 2011
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Jun 20, 2011
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Free tip, buy an electric heater. They don't burn out every 1000 hours.
Jun 20, 2011
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Jun 20, 2011
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So, federal manipulation of energy cost is your definition of letting the market decide?
"Less smoke/mercury out of the coal fired power plants, so we don't need a cap and trade architecture."
Leaving aside the idiocies of Cap and trade (which is a CO2 regulation architecture, not smoke and mercury), coal is less important here in Texas. Most of our electrical power generation is clean natural gas, and nuclear (and we lead the nation in wind power generation).
What's wrong with letting people and the marketplace decide? I don't like to pay a lot for energy. I drive a hybrid and for the house,I installed solar screens and radiant barrier. They paid for themselves in 24 months. But I hate CFLs, so I don't mind the small amount extra per month for old bulbs. That's how the market is supposed to work.
Jun 21, 2011
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Jun 21, 2011
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Jun 21, 2011
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Not on all matters... kind of why we have a 10th Amendment in the first place. Federal law is only supreme in areas where federal law is allowed to exist at all. Granted, that's been abused a great deal (see above note re: Wickard v. Filburn), but the 10th is still in place...
Jun 21, 2011
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As a Texan that didn't sound right, so I looked at your claim. It was not only wrong, but quite the opposite in fact. In 2005, Texas ranked 40 out of 50 (not 57) states in federal per capita spending, and that was with a Texas Republican in the White House.
Jun 21, 2011
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http://www.politi...ly-rece/
Too bad it's not 49 instead of 50.
So in short, please secede. It will save the successful states a lot of money.
Jun 21, 2011
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The interesting thing is what constitutes federal money. Apparently every penny from DC to Texas counts. It's not just highway funds, but things ranging from military spending (a lot of major bases and defense contractors in Tx) to federal retirements (a lot of retirees here as well). In which case, yes, I suppose you're right. My military retirement brings more to me than I pay in taxes.
Jun 21, 2011
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If not this:
then what? Seems like you want to redefine what federal money means to suit your view.
Why shouldn't military bases be counted? Let's watch Texas' unemployment skyrocket when it secedes and all those military jobs leave the state. Let's let Texas pick up the tab on those federal retirements since they aren't worth counting either.
Anyway, I don't have a problem with Texas per se. My problem is with the gaping maw jack-ass minority that is constantly spewing vomit beyond your borders. Wall off a few hundred acres and let them "secede" please.
Jun 21, 2011
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That said, what do either of your statements (the untrue "They also take more federal money per capita than most states", or the I-don't-care-enough-to-check-if-true "Texas takes in more federal money than they pay out") have to do with light bulbs?
If the nationwide incandescent phase-out isn't repealed, and if our Texas-made-bulbs-for-Texans plan moves forward, that will be just one more reason to vacation here.
Come to Texas, where neither the women nor the lighting are hard on the eyes!
(Oh, and 1630, thank you very much for your service to our country!)
Jun 21, 2011
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Apparently every penny counts - yeah. Let's think through this together. Your claim that Texas rakes in more than it pays out was to demonstrate that Tx is not an economic success. I think that's only germane if those dollars are spent on state projects - bridges, roads, infrastructure, state-paid welfare. Federal spending on federal programs that happen to be in Texas is a nonsensical data point, isn't it? Don't you see a difference between federal funds to rebuild a bridge across the Brazos river on a state highway versuses paying a sailor's salary at Corpus Christi NAS?
When the govt runs a 1.4T deficit (expenditures vs revenues), it's impossible for there not to be states receiving more than they pay in. It is not a metric of a state's success but of a federal failure.
Jun 21, 2011
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Seems-like-you-don't-care-enough-to-check. I'll give you a hint it's certainly not all and since Texas is such a proud-talking, ball-swingin' state, you'd think they wouldn't be the welfare leaches they are. Go figure.
Households and governments operate by different rules. It's really weird and sort of pathetic that conservatives get all jealous at the government because they can't run up a $14 trillion debt. Boo hoo.
I understand your dislike for Wickard v. Filburn, but this most certainly is interstate commerce, unless you're seriously suggesting people will vacation in Texas to bask in harsh incandescent light only while they are there.
Jun 21, 2011
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Sure I do. One is a valuable investment in infrastructure and the other is a waste.
I have a term for you you may not have heard before. "Warfare queen." Except "warfare" isn't the warfare you are thinking. It's a portmanteau of "war" and "welfare." However, unlike welfare queens, warfare queens actually exist.
Jun 21, 2011
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Jun 21, 2011
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That wasn't my claim - I had said regarding the second of FrankHerbert's two claims: "I-don't-care-enough-to-check-if-true (that) 'Texas takes in more federal money than they pay out'".
Otherwise - spot on!
Jun 21, 2011
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Jun 21, 2011
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Wow! That's the first time I've ever heard of the entire state of Texas being referred to as "welfare leaches"! And by an apparent leftist! Careful, you may rip a hole in the fragile space/irony continuum! To an outsider the view is likely skewed, seeing how Austin is pretty much our only Hippie-Lib reservation (I'd say "Hippie-Lib ghetto" except the scenery is so nice).
It's really weird and completely delusional you think "jealously" is the problem conservatives have with the government running up a $14 trillion debt.
It's CFLs that are "Eastern-European-stairwell" harsh.
While here, feel free to bask in the warm glow of our incandescents and/or our radiant beauties.
Jun 21, 2011
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Ship'mate', seaman, poopdeck. You Navy guys are hilarious.
Jun 21, 2011
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Fortunately it is obvious (just to tie this back into the thread) who sees the light!
Jun 21, 2011
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Jun 21, 2011
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Back to the salient issue: it will be interesting to see how this pans out, since it could perhaps be considered a Commerce Clause argument, and there could be a conflict between that and the 10th amendment. I wonder if this could possibly lead to a Supreme Court ruling, where the ominous specter of Wickard v. Filburn could be invoked, or maybe even overturned?
Jun 21, 2011
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Jun 21, 2011
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Manipulating text books?
'Progressives' have done a wonderful job of destroying US history to promote their agenda.
Why not advocate for the end of state control of education and let parents decide? The state of TX school board sets policy and chooses texts to obtain a volume discount.
Jun 23, 2011
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Jun 23, 2011
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And yes, manipulating textbooks. The TX Board of Education has an agenda just like every other Texas political body. I witnessed first hand the refusal by the board to maintain historical accuracy in order to promote political and religious agendas.
Jun 23, 2011
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You blame TX for that?
In 8th grade my children attended a charter school. The teacher couldn't find a history book written after 1979 she thought was accurate.
"Ravitch, a professor of education at New York University, shows how publishers are squeezed by pressure from groups on the right (which object to depictions of disobedience, family conflict, sexuality, evolution and the supernatural) and the left (which correct for the racism and sexism of older textbooks by urging stringent controls on language and images to weed out possibly offensive stereotypes)-most publishers have quietly adopted both sets of suggestions. In chapters devoted specifically to literature and history texts, Ravitch contends that these sanitized materials sacrifice literary quality and historical accuracy in order to escape controversy. "
Jun 23, 2011
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Is the opposite of a 'non sequitur' just a 'sequitur'? If so, this is a sequitur.
Jun 23, 2011
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Jun 23, 2011
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I've checked facts too and Texas performs quite well in education. I am sure you can look it up. Here is a link:
http://nces.ed.go...b1_2.asp
Jun 23, 2011
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Jun 23, 2011
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Dandaniels joined 4/12/11 and has only posted in this topic.
Lighthouse10 joined 3/2/11 and has posted in only two topics, both on light bulbs.
Are they all the same person or have conservatives made a concerted effort to manipulate conversation here?
Jun 23, 2011
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'Progressive' Frank wants to censor instead of discuss.
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No one sees a pattern here?