Electricity from the exhaust pipe

June 3, 2008

Researchers are working on a thermoelectric generator that converts the heat from car exhaust fumes into electricity. The module feeds the energy into the car's electronic systems. This cuts fuel consumption and helps reduce the CO2 emissions from motor vehicles.

In an age of dwindling natural resources, energy-saving is the order of the day. However, many technical processes use less than one-third of the energy they employ. This is particularly true of automobiles, where two-thirds of the fuel is emitted unused in the form of heat.

About 30 percent is lost through the engine block, and a further 30 to 35 percent as exhaust fumes. Scientists all over the world are developing ways of harnessing the unused waste heat from cars, machines and power stations, in order to lower their fuel consumption.

There is clearly a great need for thermoelectric generators, or TEGs for short. These devices convert heat into electrical energy by making use of a temperature gradient. The greater the temperature difference, the more current TEGs can produce. Researchers at the Fraunhofer Institute for Physical Measurement Techniques IPM are developing thermoelectric materials, modules and systems to harness the residual heat in automobiles.

"The temperatures in the exhaust pipe can reach 700 degrees Celsius or more," says Dr. Harald Böttner, head of the Thermoelectric Systems department. "The temperature difference between the exhaust pipe and a pipe carrying engine cooling fluid can thus be several hundred degrees Celsius." The thermoelectric converter makes use of this huge differential: Driven by the flow of heat between the hot exhaust fumes and the cold side of a coolant pipe, the charge carriers pass through special semiconductors, thus producing an electric current similar to a batterie. The long-term objective is to make the alternator superfluous and to supply energy to the constantly rising number of power consumers in the car. TEGs could cover a significant proportion of a car's power requirements: "This would make it possible to cut gas consumption by between five and seven percent," says Böttner.

A simple calculation will illustrate how important it is to increase the energy efficiency of cars: There are about 50 million licensed motor vehicles in Germany, each of which is – as a basis for an estimation – on the road for an average of 200 hours a year. If their waste heat was utilized by TEGs during that time, with an output of one kilowatt sufficient to power parts of vehicle electronics, this would add up to ten terawatt hours of energy per annum – a significant contribution. The researchers are still in the experimentation phase at present, but they plan to build the first prototypes very soon.

Source: Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft

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DGBEACH
Jun 03, 2008

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Excellent, its about time they started looking at this waste heat as a commodity rather than a nuisance.
Next could be TEG-embedded exterior building-walls, and watches which are powered by your body-heat...the possibilities are endless! ...unless you're a snowman
Glis
Jun 03, 2008

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They've been working on this for decades. There's hundreds of patents for thermionic device applications, and almost as many companies who claim to have a 'new design' for the device. There are some companies out there that have had seemingly legitimate designs for years but never seem to get working devices. (see powerchips.gi) I'm not holding my breath on anyone getting this right.


ontheinternets
Jun 03, 2008

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Rather than generate electricity, would it be possible to circulate that around to keep the car warm in the winter? It works for houses, and making use of hot water directly should increase efficiency by avoiding conversion. You could even open up a valve to have some tea, coffee, or hot chocolate. Mmmm. In seriousness, it wouldn't be fun if a pipe burst in a crash.. but alas.
1bigschwantz
Jun 03, 2008

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I dont think id want to be drinking the rusty radiator water just to have some tea.
Egnite
Jun 04, 2008

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There is already a far better use for the engine exhaust and if only everyone install a turbo kit it would be getting used fully. Engines already have a generator so whats the need for more electricity? Power is more worthwhile imo as then we could use smaller sized engines for the same power output. Less pollution ftw.
rivalarrival
Jun 05, 2008

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ontheinternets:

The heat from your car's heater is produced by "waste" heat already - the heater in your car draws heat off the engine block, simply bypassing the radiator, and dumps that heat into the cabin.

Egnite: turbo kits tend to increase power, but at a drastic decrease in engine efficiency, in terms of miles-per-gallon. They allow one to draw more power out of a smaller engine, true, but it takes more fuel to provide that power, thus there is more heat to get rid of.

Cars already have MECHANICAL electrical generation systems. It takes a LOT of power to spin a generator (more correctly: an alternator). If you remove the alternator, replace it with a TEG, you capture the heat that is currently wasted, converting it directly into electricity without spinning a generator.

This technology makes a lot of sense for plug-in hybrid vehicles, where the electricity generated can be effectively used for propulsion.
deepsand
Jun 05, 2008

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Rather than generate electricity, would it be possible to circulate that around to keep the car warm in the winter? It works for houses, and making use of hot water directly should increase efficiency by avoiding conversion. You could even open up a valve to have some tea, coffee, or hot chocolate. Mmmm. In seriousness, it wouldn't be fun if a pipe burst in a crash.. but alas.


Well, if one likes to breath CO and drink anti-freeze, why not?

Oh, and be sure to either lug along some spare H2O to refill the cooling system as you drink from it, or get out every now and then and urinate into the coolant reservoir.
xen_uno
Jun 29, 2008

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It does NOT take a lot of power to drive an alternator ... a couple of HP worst case. See ...

http://www.hotrod...faq.html

... and scroll down to "how much horsepower loss ..."

These heat to electricity setups are likely to be bulky, complicated, failure prone, and most of all, heavy.
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