Greenpeace members arrested in theft of whale meat

In this day and age, and some are still stuck to barbaric practice of whale hunting. With their wealth, the people of Japan and other developed countries continues to hunt whales solely because they like to kill big fishes (or mamals, if you want to be exact). I'll curse all them another few dozen hurricanes, pestilence, plagues, nuclear accident, megaquakes and centuries of droughts to even the death's equations. Kama has to be balanced in the end!

So Sharon did you shave before the big scene or were you as stubbly as pirate Pete?

Some people get so worked up over the dumbest things.
If they cared as much for their fellow humans as they do for animals then this world would be a better place.
Billions are spent each year on dog and cat food (and toys and clothes,etc!) meanwhile millions of human children go hungry. So get off your dammed high horse vlam you're part of the same society that everyone else is...Karma is balanced amongst us all!

I hope they go away for a looooong time. We had some eco-wacko's here that ripped up Yellowstone park with snowmobiles trying to manufacture "evidence" that allowing snowmobiles in the park was detrimental to the park. Did they go to jail...hell no. They should have had the book thrown at them.

Mmmm whalemeat

Some people get so worked up over the dumbest things.
If they cared as much for their fellow humans as they do for animals then this world would be a better place.
Billions are spent each year on dog and cat food (and toys and clothes,etc!) meanwhile millions of human children go hungry. So get off your dammed high horse vlam you're part of the same society that everyone else is...Karma is balanced amongst us all!

You are right. Killing whales is one of the dumbest things humans do. And it will be callous not to raise a voice. And "the same society" you are speaking about, i wonder who are the majority of those who spent billions on pet foods (and keep the industry going), trilions on weapons R&D? Sure not the poor buggers of Africa and elsewhere? So take a good look at "the same society" and perhaps, just perhaps, that things will change if enough people think and change.

well with a comment like that vlam I would suspect that someone as righteous as yourself would be out hunting and gathering all day. That way you are not "keeping" all these horrid industries going. I would also suspect you don't pay taxes, in order to keep from funding the government money to manufacture WMD's.

well with a comment like that vlam I would suspect that someone as righteous as yourself would be out hunting and gathering all day. That way you are not "keeping" all these horrid industries going. I would also suspect you don't pay taxes, in order to keep from funding the government money to manufacture WMD's.

Saying anymore is an insult to "Homo sapiens".

"be the change you want to see in the world" Gandhi
Im sorry DGBEACH but speak for yourself vlam67 had a good point, its true what you said that there are many wrong out there but accusing other of not helping, will never help!you are out of place to judge what people do and do not;and yes People should get worked up over the "dumbest things"(bgbeach).The world is filled with to much
political prognostication and not enough action.

....excuse me, but "I'll curse all them another few dozen hurricanes, pestilence, plagues, nuclear accident, megaquakes and centuries of droughts to even the death's equations."??????????

What kind of humanitarian is this???

While I definitely agree that mankind has not always been so kind towards the other animals on this planet, but this guy went toooooo freaking far cursing his fellow humans with what he said! People have lost their children recently in just such events and it was a callous thing to say!

My main point is that we should be concentrating on saving our fellow man, and not let the demise of lower species around us get in the way of our goal...our survival!

Some people get so worked up over the dumbest things.
If they cared as much for their fellow humans as they do for animals then this world would be a better place.

I care more for animals then I care for many humans.

Humans can care for themselves, if they choose not to why should I care for them.

And as for those poor regions where humans cant care for themselves due to shortage of natural resources the sad truth is that that shortage is the only factor keeping said human population in check. So by temporarily providing resources you in fact increase the suffering.
So Id rather feed my cat.

Contrary to humans many animals are defenseless against our onslaught.

I believe we humans have an obligation to keep our population in check.

Not to mention that many humans are disgusting creatures much worse then even the worst animal.

Odd then that you'd pick that nickname.

I definitely agree with DGBEACH. And sorry, Vlam, but I don't think you have much right to make such comments especially seeing as though your basic grammar and spelling fails. When you are speaking from your high horse you might want to make sure your knickers aren't showing.

Yes, humans are terrible creatures to all species on this earth, but there are also many decent ones and cursing an entire nation because of a minority isn't fair. Unless you have a proactive solution, don't offer such extreme measures.

If superhuman, RobL, and vlad are on about how many humans there are on the planet then there is a very obvious way all three of you can help to solve the problem without involving a single other human being or forcing any of the rest of us to pay for your brand of religious ferver.

Not saying they should, but rather trying to point out that the axioms they're basing their argument/s on are hypocritical in the extreme.

Besides humans are just as "natural" as any other species, unless you want to claim we're somehow supernatural and outside the scope of nature. If by our actions other species go extinct then mother nature has selected them for such...she's a harsh mistress and doesn't make moral judgements.

So how many hungry children did you save DGBEACH? Do you plan to save their children also?

The value of human life depends on our ability to control our numbers. Would additional 2 billion people make the World a better or a worse place? And how about additional 20 billion? or 40? At some point the value of human life starts to decline. At some point each new human only adds more suffering to the desperate existence of the rest of the population.
If you were born into the World with 26 billion people and a terrible food shortage and were taught from childhood that to survive you have to kill other humans you wouldn't see anything wrong with it.
Thats why it would be smart to start limiting human population as soon as possible.
Thats why our focus should be on preserving our environment and its resources and not on preserving every human life as that would lead to population explosion and even larger loss of life down the road.

So how many hungry children did you save DGBEACH? Do you plan to save their children also?

The value of human life depends on our ability to control our numbers. Would additional 2 billion people make the World a better or a worse place? And how about additional 20 billion? or 40? At some point the value of human life starts to decline. At some point each new human only adds more suffering to the desperate existence of the rest of the population.
If you were born into the World with 26 billion people and a terrible food shortage and were taught from childhood that to survive you have to kill other humans you wouldn't see anything wrong with it.
Thats why it would be smart to start limiting human population as soon as possible.
Thats why our focus should be on preserving our environment and its resources and not on preserving every human life as that would lead to population explosion and even larger loss of life down the road.

You're effectively saying to directly cull our own would help the environment. I guess that's true. But it isn't any more a moral solution as what you are criticising about DGBEACH. I know you didn't mean to take out already established lives with your first comment, but when you went on to say we shouldn't be preserving every human life you changed the message.

You can't preserve something that doesn't exist yet, so you meant no action on saving the lives of other human beings. In nations where breeding is out of control, I do think some places have it right to limit the births. But drowning them in buckets after birth isn't the way, of course.

All these natural disasters lately could also be a sign that mother nature is already on top of it, though.

So how many hungry children did you save DGBEACH?

Four actually, my own. And it is my prime objective to ensure that they continue to survive...and if it meant feeding them whale meat or your right leg I'd do it!

In nations where breeding is out of control, I do think some places have it right to limit the births. But drowning them in buckets after birth isn't the way, of course.

I never said it is, I said giving them resources is not an option.

Four actually, my own. And it is my prime objective to ensure that they continue to survive...and if it meant feeding them whale meat or your right leg I'd do it!

Good for them but your own doesn't count.
If you ever have a choice between bread and whale meat please stick to the bread.

Good for them but your own doesn't count.
If you ever have a choice between bread and whale meat please stick to the bread.

But if the whale is already dead what's the difference? It's not like given that choice requires going out to hunt and kill the whale. Waste not want not!

If they are using the research loophole to kill the whales, and not endangering the overall population of the species they kill then I would hope all the meat is gonig to use. My problem with this whole thing, though, is that apparently a lot of meat is unwanted and going to waste. If that is the case they should very dramatically lower the number they kill.

My bucket comment wasn't literal. I did understand what you meant, I was just using a figure of speech, though it was a little aggressive.