Scientists to study synthetic telepathy

August 13, 2008

A team of UC Irvine scientists has been awarded a $4 million grant from the U.S. Army Research Office to study the neuroscientific and signal-processing foundations of synthetic telepathy.

The research could lead to a communication system that would benefit soldiers on the battlefield and paralysis and stroke patients, according to lead researcher Michael D’Zmura, chair of the UCI Department of Cognitive Sciences.

“Thanks to this generous grant we can work with experts in automatic speech recognition and in brain imaging at other universities to research a brain-computer interface with applications in military, medical and commercial settings,” D’Zmura says.

The brain-computer interface would use a noninvasive brain imaging technology like electroencephalography to let people communicate thoughts to each other. For example, a soldier would “think” a message to be transmitted and a computer-based speech recognition system would decode the EEG signals. The decoded thoughts, in essence translated brain waves, are transmitted using a system that points in the direction of the intended target.

“Such a system would require extensive training for anyone using it to send and receive messages,” D’Zmura says. “Initially, communication would be based on a limited set of words or phrases that are recognized by the system; it would involve more complex language and speech as the technology is developed further.”

D’Zmura will collaborate with UCI cognitive science professors Ramesh Srinivasan, Gregory Hickok and Kourosh Saberi. Joining the team are researchers Richard Stern and Vijayakumar Bhagavatula from Carnegie Mellon’s Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering and David Poeppel from the University of Maryland’s Department of Linguistics.

The grant comes from the U.S. Department of Defense’s Multidisciplinary University Research Initiative program, which supports research involving more than one science and engineering discipline. Its goal is to develop applications for military and commercial uses.

Source: UC Irvine

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bredmond
Aug 13, 2008

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How is this different from efforts to create brain computer interface?
Mayday
Aug 14, 2008

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bredmond: It has a cooler name, "synthetic telepathy." Which indicates that they are utilizing this new technology you may not have heard about. It's called "marketing."
MrFred
Aug 14, 2008

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maybe instead of using this for destructive purposes, ie soldiers and war, we should think about using this to give the disabled a better life
bredmond
Aug 14, 2008

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@mayday: this marketing stuff sounds great. Maybe we can bottle it and sell it to the third world. It can really save lives. When is the IPO? Put me on the list!!! :)
Icester
Aug 14, 2008

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@MrFred: Military and space research are always the primary drivers for new research. Later is gets ported to more civilian uses. That is the way of the world - money is the driver and let's face it, bettering disabled patients lives is not a high-profit area.

I am in no way demonizing military or space research - I think they are necessary and great. I'm just pointing out the realities.

Also, MrFred, what makes you assume that soldiers and war are always destructive? The U.S. military has been a major peacekeeping force in the last couple of decades - Bosnia, Afghanistan, and now Iraq. Yes, Iraq. If you don't listen to the media, but listen to the Iraqi people, you will know the good that the U.S. is doing there. If it wasn't for the U.S. ousting the Taliban, they would still be an oppressed people (applies to Afghanistan also). The U.S. will leave as soon as they are able - they want to ensure that the legitimate Iraqi government can take care of itself first.

As far as the war in Iraq - I don't know how anyone can reasonably argue that ousting Saddaam was a bad thing. That murdering maniac ordered the deaths of over 100,000 of his own people.
rubberman
Aug 14, 2008

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So lets say that they use the 4 million effectively and accomplish this goal, and the equipment required can be reduced enough in size to fit inside a standard issue helmet.Then what? Even if they find a way to make it for 4 000.00 $ that is a pretty expensive freakin' helmet, and what if the guy gets shot because he has to aim his gaze away from the action in order to transmit a "thought"?
Velanarris
Aug 14, 2008

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So lets say that they use the 4 million effectively and accomplish this goal, and the equipment required can be reduced enough in size to fit inside a standard issue helmet.Then what? Even if they find a way to make it for 4 000.00 $ that is a pretty expensive freakin' helmet, and what if the guy gets shot because he has to aim his gaze away from the action in order to transmit a "thought"?


The current eyewear that the US military employs is well over that dollar amount and does not facilitate communication.

Also to those thinking that all military equipment is destructive, think on it this way.

Faster battlefield communications will prevent civilian casualties when all your troops know the FoF status of a group of people because the scout correctly ID'ed them as civilians. Cease fire and hold your fire orders won't be misinterpreted due to ambient noise and best of all soldiers won't have to make noise if trying to avoid hostiles in a civilian zone. It'd be a big boon to reducing "collateral damage" if communications was improved in this manner.
BobbyT
Aug 14, 2008

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Icester: that is your perception of reality, while others may have their own! It sounds like you are pushing your ideologies and perception on others, as that is an endless argument! Some may agree with your opinion on Iraq and others may not! Yes, we as a country push our democratic ideals on other nations to be more like us, if you call that peacekeeping then that's what your perception is. We do what we do to benefit us not just those in Bosnia, Afghanistan and Iraq!

So let's try to keep the political comments to ourself!
MVV
Aug 14, 2008

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I'll not enter in the peacekeeping aims of the army and marines , but i woulnt trade my place with a recon squad wearing all that junk and having no batteries to use it.

Let's face it , war is very very far from aseptic labs with controlled conditions.

On the other hand , if using the military card to pay for the development helps improving the live of disabled people , great , go for it.
Arthur_Dent
Aug 14, 2008

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There's another opportunity in this, most've missed!

Think of it:
being able to sample the population, continuously, simply take people into custody & put this on 'em, and show 'em slide-shows of questionable things...

You'll be able to identify the Commies, the Pedophiles, the Activists, and other threats, without their being able to beat the interrogation!

Simply by sampling 1-2% of the population, every year, Authority will be, finally, made Safe & Secure(tm)

:)

#undef sarcasm
mundens
Aug 14, 2008

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@Icester, it's the sex industry that's always on the bleeding edge of any relevant technology, the military and space industries have nowhere near as much money to spend as the sex industry does!

And this is _very_ relevant technology for sex machines! I predict it will first be commercially available for high class prostitutes or fitted to sex robots in Japan, likely well before it's deployed in any non-prototype way by the military or police! :)
visual
Aug 15, 2008

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MrFred, fixing up disabled people is the least of the potential infront BCI. It will revolutionize our world, our very essence and the idea of what "human" means.
Once BCI implants are developed, they will quickly lead to new languages, new level of thinking and intelligence, new species of humans... possibly even things as wild as collective consciousness, mind transfer, a cyberspace universe, and for sure a bunch of other revolutionary changes that no one even imagined yet.

This particular work though, and the whole of non-invasive approaches to BCI, have no chance to work. Maybe they will get quite advanced in reading certain brain signals, but they will never be able to do the reverse - stimulate the brain - in a non-invasive way.

Scientists need to get over some "taboos" and give up the non-invasive techniques and just rush to perfecting the brain implant approach.
EarthScientist
Aug 16, 2008

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They have plenty of brain implants already that work just fine,but they are HD, and sometime,or I should say most times they are very destructive to the human/animal that they inhabit.

All of our dis-eases are provided by them and you must first eliminate them before any recession of disease would result.

All telepathy is provided by HD,along with channeling,psychic processes,remote viewing and other numerous fields of collusion between HD and physical humans.

Get over it,give the money back you morons,lets use it for a good cause.

Now get over this, "You" and I do mean "YOU" are a dot, the size of a grain of sand having a physicality experience in a grown body and when your body dies,that dot comes out to attempt to re-incarnate itself and know everything it knew before and of course stil goes by "John" or whomever he or she was and most are destroyed by others,such as angry black men and angry germans after losing their physical lives in war and they are beating the hell out of you and getting away with it,and now boys and girls,how do you feel about that.

You may think old "Papa" here is spinning you a yarn,but he assures you he is not.

If you dream at all,you have an HD protocoler working against you.

If anyone in your family is overweight or has any of the pain diseases,crippling diseases or endocrine diseases ,you are being tortured and killed,and I suggest you complain as a field to your government as when they task me for a solution,I can then protocol with them to effect a curative process that will eliminate many of them who are engaged against us all.

Most of you will completely forget my words,as the mind feed army really is highly trained to keep you angry,complacent and /or injured and depleted out of your body so that you know who does not have to pay you much social security.

Those genetics that you see that are always healed and whole have enough protection, or are the faction that is doing the genocide of the American citizenry for their retribution.

We are experiencing the largest genocide event in the history of the earth and you folks are putting up with it,until you take a stand and get your asses informed with the information I share,you are guilty of allowing this paradigm to continue by your complacency after receiving the information I protocol out.
vlam67
Aug 16, 2008

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MrFred, fixing up disabled people is the least of the potential infront BCI. It will revolutionize our world, our very essence and the idea of what "human" means.
Once BCI implants are developed, they will quickly lead to new languages, new level of thinking and intelligence, new species of humans... possibly even things as wild as collective consciousness, mind transfer, a cyberspace universe, and for sure a bunch of other revolutionary changes that no one even imagined yet.

This particular work though, and the whole of non-invasive approaches to BCI, have no chance to work. Maybe they will get quite advanced in reading certain brain signals, but they will never be able to do the reverse - stimulate the brain - in a non-invasive way.

Scientists need to get over some "taboos" and give up the non-invasive techniques and just rush to perfecting the brain implant approach.


Ha ha, sound like a Borg recruiting pitch to me...
TJ_alberta
Aug 16, 2008

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logical. it's the 40th anniversary of Barbarella. http://www.imdb.c...0062711/
seanpu
Aug 18, 2008

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there could be a more simple approach to this telepathy idea.

The basic structure presented is

Brain interface < - > processor < - > transceiver < - > processor < - > interface < - > Brain

The processor changing "thoughts" into speak, and speak into "thoughts"

instead, skip the processor bit, so that the EEG signals of one person is sent to another and played straight back to the other.

The brain is a remarkable mechanism and doesn't need technology in the way. with training the brain would learn what these signals mean.

Brain < - > interface < - > transceiver < - > interface < - > Brain

would be very interesting.
BobbyT
Aug 18, 2008

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"EarthScientist"

I have one question! WTF are you talking about? Not saying that you didn't spark some type of intrigue, but what are you trying to convey! I would like to think I can grasp what you are talking about, just give us a little more insight into your world of thought! Seriously...

Mundens! This is like that movie which was around 2000-2002 about the end of the world with a New Years celebration, and they use this EEG device for sexual pleasure. Please someone must know the name of that movie.
visual
Aug 20, 2008

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seanpu, that's very much like what i've been thinking as well...

i do imagine very interesting possibilities can be opened if we link our brain neurons on a low level, without ever trying to analyze or process the signals. but i want to make it clear - it is pure speculation on my part.

there are arguments against such a raw, low-level connection.
it will be a bit of a "security risk"... if two people are connected like this and their brains adapt and make something useful out of this connection, cool... but it could also have dangerous side-effects as well - transmitting pain, confusion, influencing each-other's thoughts and mood. these effects might also turn out to be "skewed" in one direction only, so one of the persons can dominate and control the other.

and also, likely no two pairs of people that are connected this way will adapt to it in the same way and use it with the same signals. that means even after you adapt to such a connection with someone, you still can not plug him off and plug someone else and expect everything to keep working. re-adaptation this second time might turn out slower, harder or even impossible due to the neural pathways that have been established in your brain from the first connection.
though, who knows? it may as well turn out easier, and it may turn out the majority of our brains adapt to work with such a connection in a compatible way....

i believe a grown up brain will adapt to such drastic changes quite hard. current research has shown that we do have a hope of controlling an artificial appendage, or understanding an artificial input such as ear or eye, if they are made to work on the same or similar brain signals, in the same brain areas, as the body parts we already learned to control naturally. but learning to make sense of a completely new body part or signal type is a different topic - maybe it will be only possible when it is implanted very soon after birth and the brain can spend a long time growing up with it, like it does with our real body.

one potential set-up i have wondered about is, if two people are linked with a large enough number of neurons very early in their development, as babies or even as early as embryos, and the connection is kept on at all times. what could that be like?

maybe they will grow up and learn to think and speak and act like just one personality, one identity with two bodies. just an ordinary person, but "twice as smart" because he has twice as big a brain?
or maybe it will be an utter failure - the person will be getting so confused from getting sensory inputs from two unrelated bodies at two completely different places that he would never learn to make sense of them.
maybe they will grow up normally and be separate personalities, but be able to use that connection for telepathy?

can you imagine connecting more people instead of just two? how much more, is there a limit? what could be the consequences of severing that connection, permanently or very briefly, in either of those scenarios?

it is very interesting for me to speculate, and imagine different possibilities, but i know that's completely useless... except for a sci-fi book perhaps. so i won't bore you all with any more of that.

we can't know what will happen until we try these things out, but one thing is certain - it will be the biggest change in our history.
seanpu
Aug 22, 2008

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the problem of adult brains incorporating new interfaces is a serious one i hadn't given much thought to.

speculation: maybe there is a way to stimulate redevelopment of the brain tissues to help incorporate new stimuli?

Looking at my new baby (8 months now) she's multitask-learning ALL the time, and i aint capable of doing that! she's learning to talk, walk and grab things all at once! If some device is attached to an adult brain i'd imagine it would be VERY disruptive to the host personality , to suddenly have new input, which i assume would be interpreted in a way dependent on the function of the region of brain it was attached.

but, as u said, adding such a device before birth might make it more acceptable to the organism.

But more simply, what would happen if we just relay EEG between brains?
cabeza
Aug 24, 2008

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As I tried to remove the devices traveling to the Middle East (Damascus) and everyone is very nervous I will tell you that these devices implanted in my carry at least since 2003 ( "Synthetic telepathy," Stimoceiver, Sound Device, Video Device, the entire information they want about them on Google) by the CNI in tryouts covert Neuroscience and Psychiatry. They often performed on people without aid resources, with past psychiatric (easy to camouflage). Transmission via satellite 0-100 hz, repeaters enhancers, PC-MáquinaEnvio-Cable-Potenciadoers *- DispostivosPersona). This is probably locked in a psychiatric concluded with the Spanish state after sending this information. Me and my environment people are being tortured in military projects with TecnoGen tip known as Monarch, MKULRA, Pandora, Paperclip (Jewish), Bluebird,%u2026.

The alleged strangeness generated before 3as with certain gestures (2003-2004) was nothing but "hypnotic Pavlovian conditioning" during hypnosis (Silent Hypnos Stimoceiver "Synthetic Telepathy" Sound Stimoceiver) condition is not hypnotic Mendel during the day (Stimoceiver ) To enable people close to my face these operations or potential problem-type mental illness. Generoso trauma through implantation of false memories (Stimoceiver imitates frequency magnetic / electrical altering brain chemicals like (eg 17-70 hz), making possible the introduction of memories through hypnosis condiconamiento Pavlovian), tried to make me believe that a subconscious earlier had raped my little sister, assuming a real physical fact (fall into a swing and damage in areas genitals), adding driven dreams (dreams can be generated, attentive those who believe have made a person with an apparatus hypnosis). Brainwashing. Games during my sexuality (masturbation) stimulating the penis of certain forms plancenteras not for months, apart from the presence of cameras (loss of privacy), existence of "synthetic telepathy" (loss of privacy at the level of thought). Attempts to promote partnership (paranoia) through hypnosis and sleeplessness. Hypnosis and brainwashing not consented leaving in a horrible state of mind (66Kg and left me in low fevers, with nothing to sweat). Evidence of the aircraft "synthetic telepathy" (introducing thinking "Caram" and after days of trying hypnosis, conditioning and lack of sleep (very strong association) that I believe guilty of something, sound device (proposition cloning the voice of a friend) stimoceiver and playing with the aircraft from generating stimuli of depression or anxiety and adrenaline. memorization tests and / or disabling memory by person of my surroundings. games apparatus known as Stimoceiver during masturbacion to generate strangeness.

A January 6, 2005 began its "operations" as they called it. They begin to deliver with sound device (cloning voices of friends and relatives to count alleged facts that would be painful), and with Stimoceiver (estimulacioes brutal in any direction, adrenaline (anger), depression, much more powerful than stimuli real life, brain stimulation (magnetic / electrical generating sensations), games with voices, inductions to suicide in real time through cloning voices "synthetic telepathy" generation mental state momentum through physical Stimoceiver. Using my own voice between stimulations of output exceeding drugs (eg: psychoactive = 17/70 Hz). Begin humiliation, abuse, sexual and bejaciones type of non-sexual about myself. Generating LEXION physical broken teeth, dislocations (shoulders, knees%u2026), wrist, jaw , Stomach ulcers (produced by digestion continuous cuts since late 2004 to present), intracranial areas (15 days for bleeding in continuity with LEXION Stimoceiver or microwave weapons, burning sensation). Attempted infarction during exercises maximum power ( may give more power to the aircraft Stamina, up 120% over 100% continuity of effort repetitions (heart final effort) do not feel able cansacio), forced to ejaculate on many occasions, forced erections, during games and sexuality alone partner (bejaciones, abuses of all kinds and even new types not known, "electronic raped"). Generating trauma during subconscious to try to make believe that I am third persons with impaired sexual or near Pavlovian mediantre during hypnosis gestures so through direct physical control with Stimoceiver, plus thousands of hours of torture on the topic with sound and synthetic telepathy. "Interrogations continued during which lasts 32000 hours operating the aircraft so far to open 24 hours. Threats to kill, rape, torture , Introduce appliances to family and friends in case of protest, denouncing confess or not (I have not done anything). Pressures military-style about myself and about 3 º s my environment with the information that I removed during hypnosis and the "synthetic telepathy "(In-out), brainwashing (KO mental), loss of freedom of thought (with Stimoceiver attempt between stimulations (in-out) and" Synthetic telepathy "(in-out) that I can only own thinking). Locked in a psychiatrist in August 2005 for reporting facts before National Police, which says knowing nothing of devices (only comment on the existence of audio and video) being in summer 2006 when after I bring documentation on them saying "magnetism" and do not help to find them. In 2007 and 2008 say not knowing anything about them. Drogrado for more than a year after confinement in psychiatric (mental KO after not being able to defend the aircraft). Experimenting with human environments experimentation with human relations Work (ISBAN Jose Ignacio Sanchez Rodriguez (100% appliances), Sergio García-Ochoa (95% or 5% apparatuses active collaboration), Blake Cuena Sanz (90% or 10% appliances colab absolute), Victor Carrion (60% appliances, 40% absolute collaboration), Emilio Herrero (40%, 60%) and sentimental (Noelia Adam Porter (100% appliances). The main contracting company has agreements with the Spanish army (Match mind). My current leading software company the Spanish army satellites (INDRA). Attempted to conduct "research" among people in my environment because there are people seemed surprised to hear from the aircraft before January 2005 (DCDD (knowledge video tests mental tests memorization), JMG (knowledge video knowledge management personality), ASR (knowledge video), ESG (knowledge video), other attempts to hypnosis, knowledge of them, RYP (collaborator through voice for months). Attempts to destroy personality, (introduction of ideas steadily not thought to have washed brain itself hypnosis), attempt to promote the partnership to generate paranoia, attempt to traumatize, humiliate, torture, with every detail from birth. Generating trauma through Pavlovian (65000 repetitions = = Truth Fear before possible contagious disease diagnostic tests Quietness = = Truth psychoactive generadad with appliances (Stimoceiver 17/70 hz) critical moment of decision sound, therefore it would be a lie as truth = lsd people destroying vital decision on the matter).

Transmission Airspace internacinal in Swiss airspace, airspace French, German air space, Egypt, England (UK), Portugal, Morocco, Czech Republic, Spain, Syria and Gibraltar. Transmission soil protected (embassies) of Iran, Veneluela, Nicaragua, Argentina, Palestine and Canada.

In 3 years 7 months 18 days I have not had free thinking, or intimacy only 1 second.

He denounced this before:

National Police (different stations throughout the country)

Civil Guard (normal alpha30 )

Spanish Army (difentes sections)

Denfesor the Spanish people

Media Spaniards

Political parties in Spain.

Human rights associations worldwide

Global association of neuroscience

Neuroscientists around the world

Interpol (all branches and areas)

Europol.

Political World.

NATO

o-nU

CIA

FBI

NSA (USA tortured with this technology)

American and Venezuelan Army.

Embassies 12000

Agencies information from around the world.

Request for political asylum in Iran, Venezuela, Russia and Sirya.

Attempts embassies in Palestine, Argentina, Nicaragua and Canada.

In a few days to travel the intentaré Tehran way he will be locked up or dead.
kro
Aug 27, 2008

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@Icester, it's the sex industry that's always on the bleeding edge of any relevant technology, the military and space industries have nowhere near as much money to spend as the sex industry does!

And this is _very_ relevant technology for sex machines! I predict it will first be commercially available for high class prostitutes or fitted to sex robots in Japan, likely well before it's deployed in any non-prototype way by the military or police! :)
@Icester, it's the sex industry that's always on the bleeding edge of any relevant technology, the military and space industries have nowhere near as much money to spend as the sex industry does!

And this is _very_ relevant technology for sex machines! I predict it will first be commercially available for high class prostitutes or fitted to sex robots in Japan, likely well before it's deployed in any non-prototype way by the military or police! :)
@Icester, it's the sex industry that's always on the bleeding edge of any relevant technology, the military and space industries have nowhere near as much money to spend as the sex industry does!

And this is _very_ relevant technology for sex machines! I predict it will first be commercially available for high class prostitutes or fitted to sex robots in Japan, likely well before it's deployed in any non-prototype way by the military or police! :)
mrreynolds
Aug 29, 2008

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This technology is fully functional & has been in use for sometime for more information please review http://www.daprocess.com.
wowo
Jan 05, 2009

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Of course I want a small fortune for the domain,
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