Arctic sea ice drops to 2nd lowest level on record

Blah blah blah...we're all gonna die, or something close to it....yaaawwwwnnn. Whatever.

Mmmmmmm polar bear meat! :)

"More square miles of dark ocean will absorb more heat. More warmth will accelerate melting of Arctic permafrost, allowing organic matter now frozen to melt and add to the greenhouse gas problem, he said."

This is a pathetic over-simplification of the processes at work. But it's squarely aligned with the money-talk that gets published as science. What a shameless masquerade.

All I can say is look at the plot:
http://arctic.atm...anom.jpg

"that gets published as science. What a shameless masquerade"

Which scientific facts are a masquerade, can you be specific? It is not possible for readers to rely on comments without prove. United Nations has, unlike you so far, given some proves already.

"we're all gonna die", "Mmmmmmm polar bear meat", if you don't care about "life", why do you spend some time writing here?

"we're all gonna die", "Mmmmmmm polar bear meat", if you don't care about "life", why do you spend some time writing here?

It's an intresting device called sarcasm...

Here...DKA meet sarcasm, sarcasm meet DKA...

Sheesh.

Yes, but with last years ice level being the lowest, and this year being the "second lowest", this clearly indicates we are in a cooling trend and climate change isn't even an issue....


Sorry for the sarcasm folks.

sarcasm, okay, what is it indicating in this case?

It indicates that despite all of the attempts to dispell the myth of global warming, direct Observational evidence from arctic regions and mountain glaciers show without a doubt that the climate there is getting warmer. And it also apparently indicates that DGB hasn't actally tried polar bear meat.....

It indicates that despite all of the attempts to dispell the myth of global warming, direct Observational evidence from arctic regions and mountain glaciers show without a doubt that the climate there is getting warmer. And it also apparently indicates that DGB hasn't actally tried polar bear meat.....

Ok, it's getting warmer. After it got colder:

Washington Post, November 22, 1922

"Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.......great masses of ice have now been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, ......at many points well-known glaciers have entirely disappeared.%u201D

Mouser... are you saying that ice has melted before??? How can that be true? Everyone knows that the temperature hasn't varied for thousands of years. Al Gore told me so.

Mouser... are you saying that ice has melted before??? How can that be true? Everyone knows that the temperature hasn't varied for thousands of years. Al Gore told me so.

Yeah, and he invented the internet, and walks on water every other sunday, and... Oh, and he almost flunked both the college science classes he took.

Could you have some respect?

"you saying that ice has melted before"

it did or not is not relevent. Co2 makes climate warmer. There are still local conditions that influence climat, that will never change. Co2 is one of them, and it is an increasingly deadly one.

United Nations has, unlike you so far, given some proves already.

The UN IPCC has not provided any proofs. They also didn't do a meta-analysis of other peoples' data. What they did do is a literature review. One of the problems with their review is that they included papers written by people working for the IPCC (something like circular reasoning.) They also averaged the outputs of 5 climate models,none of which have been proofed or agree with each other with any degree of precision.

The comments during the review process have been placed online:
http://www.climat...df/ipcc/
http://hcl.harvar...ns/ipcc/
http://pds.lib.ha.../7794905

And there is an analysis of them at
http://scienceand...bias.pdf

Could you have some respect?

DNC.

United Nations has, unlike you so far, given some proves already.

The UN IPCC has not provided any proofs. They also didn't do a meta-analysis of other peoples' data. What they did do is a literature review. One of the problems with their review is that they included papers written by people working for the IPCC (something like circular reasoning.) They also averaged the outputs of 5 climate models,none of which have been proofed or agree with each other with any degree of precision.

The comments during the review process have been placed online:
http://www.climat...df/ipcc/
http://hcl.harvar...ns/ipcc/
http://pds.lib.ha.../7794905

And there is an analysis of them at
http://scienceand...bias.pdf

Could you have some respect?

DNC.

I looked at the last link. It is a window af years that include an las ninas year as the last year. Directly said, it is manipulative and have been done this way to intentionaly misslead readers into thinking that the earth is not warming. Very sad that some people do some acts of hate against other human, I guess this will never stop, there will always be extreme in hatred, no morale whatsoever.

"you saying that ice has melted before"

it did or not is not relevent. Co2 makes climate warmer. There are still local conditions that influence climat, that will never change. Co2 is one of them, and it is an increasingly deadly one.

How does CO2 make the climate warmer? The IR theory has been extinguished due to the fact all the IR due to radiative forcing is absorbed within 10 meters. If you up the amount of CO2 you just shorten the distance in which all IR is captured.

If you reduce the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere you'll kill a lot of plant life and a lot of marine life.

The seas are highly alkaline, CO2 reduces the pH of the ocean water making it livable for flora and fauna. They make their shells oout of it, their homes, they use it for food, we use it as limestone to built beautiful things.

AGW is a farce. If you disagree, prove it and I'll show you where you're wrong.

After all, I have 37000 scientists on my side. You have about 400.

I looked at the last link. It is a window af years that include an las ninas year as the last year. Directly said, it is manipulative and have been done this way to intentionaly misslead readers into thinking that the earth is not warming. Very sad that some people do some acts of hate against other human, I guess this will never stop, there will always be extreme in hatred, no morale whatsoever.

You mean like the IPCC/Mann/Hansen charts that only start at the end of a cooling period? Oh, I know they aren't comparable...