Ice Age lesson predicts a faster rise in sea level

Hmmm, the sea level rise in "An Inconvenient Truth" was much, much more than 1 or 2 feet per century.

"Hmmm, the sea level rise in "An Inconvenient Truth" was much, much more than 1 or 2 feet per century."
I believe this article is addressing just ice melt from the Greenland ice sheet. Ice is melting in both hemispheres and ocean temperatures are rising too, which causes the expansion of total ocean water volume.

Hmmm, the sea level rise in "An Inconvenient Truth" was much, much more than 1 or 2 feet per century.

The data from IPCC are much more conservative than those shown in the movie. Frankly speaking, scientists have complained that in order to get the US to sign the IPCC document, they needed to reduce the impact of "GW" (Global warming). Also many scientist are affraid to be finger pointed as alarmist and they need to be much too cautious. It is said that it is accepted that GW is caused by humans (Co2/dioxines) at about 95% certainty, but there are discussions over how fast the impacts are developing. So far, the "skeptiest" have been proven wrong quite dramatically and the arctic is melting much much faster than the conservative IPCC document is predicting. The truth is that things are very seriously wrong, and if it does not take until 2050-2080 for the Arctic to be melted (IPCC), than you realise that the impacts are happening at a much faster pace than we are officialy told in mass communications.

I am also realizing that this world is being affected by spiritual things. This link is a nine minute video about the earth and the meaning of whats happening on here.
http://www.youtub...-KorhkM8&feature=related

Yeah, everything will always happen in next one hundred years :D

what is this spiritual dimension bullshit?, I thought this was supposed to be a scientific web site. If I'd wanted spiritual mumbo jumbo as an explanation for my existence I'd have taken up religion.

We should be beware of the effects of the increasing global temperature that may cause sea levels to rise, and the increase in the weather intensity.. Other effects of global warming include major changes in the agricultural yields, modifications of trade routes, extinctions of various species and the increase in the various ranges of disease factors.

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I like spirituality mixed with science. Thank you for the link sattvik, very interesting...

Its pretty obvious that the world is deteriorating quickly. It is pretty obvious is it not? Just look around.

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We should be beware of the effects of the increasing global temperature that may cause sea levels to rise, and the increase in the weather intensity.. Other effects of global warming include major changes in the agricultural yields, modifications of trade routes, extinctions of various species and the increase in the various ranges of disease factors.

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Its pretty obvious that the world is deteriorating quickly. It is pretty obvious is it not? Just look around.

RT

Why the BS link?

We should be beware of the effects of the increasing global temperature that may cause sea levels to rise, and the increase in the weather intensity.. Other effects of global warming include major changes in the agricultural yields, modifications of trade routes, extinctions of various species and the increase in the various ranges of disease factors.

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Savio

Yet another BS link.

The data from IPCC are much more conservative than those shown in the movie. Frankly speaking, scientists have complained that in order to get the US to sign the IPCC document, they needed to reduce the impact of "GW" (Global warming). Also many scientist are affraid to be finger pointed as alarmist and they need to be much too cautious. It is said that it is accepted that GW is caused by humans (Co2/dioxines) at about 95% certainty, but there are discussions over how fast the impacts are developing. So far, the "skeptiest" have been proven wrong quite dramatically and the arctic is melting much much faster than the conservative IPCC document is predicting. The truth is that things are very seriously wrong, and if it does not take until 2050-2080 for the Arctic to be melted (IPCC), than you realise that the impacts are happening at a much faster pace than we are officialy told in mass communications.

The above statement is factually false.

"Hmmm, the sea level rise in "An Inconvenient Truth" was much, much more than 1 or 2 feet per century."
I believe this article is addressing just ice melt from the Greenland ice sheet. Ice is melting in both hemispheres and ocean temperatures are rising too, which causes the expansion of total ocean water volume.

And FYI the warm ocean currents are melting the ice, not atmospheric warming.

Simple backyard test, take a glass of warm water and an overzealous 5 year old with good wind.

Put an ice cube in front of the kid and put an ice cube in the glass. See which vanishes first, the ice cube in the warm water or the ice cube being constantly blown on by the kid.

"Hmmm, the sea level rise in "An Inconvenient Truth" was much, much more than 1 or 2 feet per century."
I believe this article is addressing just ice melt from the Greenland ice sheet. Ice is melting in both hemispheres and ocean temperatures are rising too, which causes the expansion of total ocean water volume.

And FYI the warm ocean currents are melting the ice, not atmospheric warming.

Simple backyard test, take a glass of warm water and an overzealous 5 year old with good wind.

Put an ice cube in front of the kid and put an ice cube in the glass. See which vanishes first, the ice cube in the warm water or the ice cube being constantly blown on by the kid.

Relevance?

Are water temperatures independent of those of air and land?

Relevance?

Are water temperatures independent of those of air and land?

Here you go, the AGW theory states we're warming the air and that's causing glacial melt over the land and sea.

Reason why the sea level isn't rising as forcasted by AGW is because the oceans are warming due to tectonic processes, these processes then melt the ice that is IN the water. Ice that is already in the water is already being supported by the water so the total volume of the oceans don't change, like a glass of soda with ice on a hot day. The glass never overflows, it simply warms up.

Now here's where the misrepresentation occurs. We are losing our water ice, however, the ice sheets are thickening over land. This is raising the albedo of the earth as there si more reflective ice and snow as opposed to low albedo land.

This is causing cooling, not warming. AGW is false, we're headed for cooler times. This is the same mechanic theorized as being responsible for the ice ages this planet has undergone.

A fully natural process regardless of what we do. So let's drop the legislation and expense of creating a theoretical "pollution free" world and realize how really small we are in the scheme of things.

The AGW camp is misguided and arrogant in it's claims. Claims which are costing everyone their livelyhoods, finance, and in some cases ability to live.

Relevance?

Are water temperatures independent of those of air and land?

Here you go, the AGW theory states we're warming the air and that's causing glacial melt over the land and sea.

Reason why the sea level isn't rising as forcasted by AGW is because the oceans are warming due to tectonic processes, these processes then melt the ice that is IN the water. Ice that is already in the water is already being supported by the water so the total volume of the oceans don't change, like a glass of soda with ice on a hot day. The glass never overflows, it simply warms up.

Now here's where the misrepresentation occurs. We are losing our water ice, however, the ice sheets are thickening over land. This is raising the albedo of the earth as there si more reflective ice and snow as opposed to low albedo land.

This is causing cooling, not warming. AGW is false, we're headed for cooler times. This is the same mechanic theorized as being responsible for the ice ages this planet has undergone.

A fully natural process regardless of what we do. So let's drop the legislation and expense of creating a theoretical "pollution free" world and realize how really small we are in the scheme of things.

The AGW camp is misguided and arrogant in it's claims. Claims which are costing everyone their livelyhoods, finance, and in some cases ability to live.

As usual, evades the question.

Try directly answering the question posed by deepsand.

As usual, evades the question.

Try directly answering the question posed by deepsand.

First two paragraphs big guy.

As usual, evades the question.

Try directly answering the question posed by deepsand.

First two paragraphs big guy.

You really do have a problem with providing direct answwers, don't you.

It's a "yes" or "no" question.

Pick one.

As usual, evades the question.

Try directly answering the question posed by deepsand.

First two paragraphs big guy.

You really do have a problem with providing direct answwers, don't you.

It's a "yes" or "no" question.

Pick one.

This isn't a napkin you pass around in class asking if I'll take you to the prom.

Put a frame of reference to the question and you'll get a yes or no answer.

For the feeble minded & intellectually lazy/dishonest, the frame of reference = Earth

For the feeble minded & intellectually lazy/dishonest, the frame of reference = Earth

Are water temperatures independant from those of sea and land in regard to Earth....

That's not a proper question. In the system "Earth" yes they're linked, but they're also disassociated. Atmospheric temperature has very little potential to heat the sea where as land has great potential to heat the sea.

So what answer are you looking for?

For the feeble minded & intellectually lazy/dishonest, the frame of reference = Earth

Are water temperatures independant from those of sea and land in regard to Earth....

That's not a proper question. In the system "Earth" yes they're linked, but they're also disassociated. Atmospheric temperature has very little potential to heat the sea where as land has great potential to heat the sea.

So what answer are you looking for?

I have to agree with Velanarris. The local air temperatures are independent of the local sea temperatures. And a warm wind will have an effect on the rate of melting that is different from a cold wind. I expect that the humidity also is germane.

I have to agree with Velanarris. The local air temperatures are independent of the local sea temperatures. And a warm wind will have an effect on the rate of melting that is different from a cold wind. I expect that the humidity also is germane.

Well here's the kicker. The elevation of the antarctic ice sheet is increasing, which would make most people believe the ice is getting thicker, but it's not.
http://www.worldc..._vol.JPG
The AGW crowd thinks it's AGW causing the ice to melt. But it's not.

Tada, tectonic process.

http://wattsupwit...tic-ice/

Same thing is happening under the artic ice caps. Welcome to non AGW ice melt, scientifically proven but the current side scanning sonar and space based ladar mapping projects undertaken by the UN to map out the resource allocation at the poles.

That proves my point.

That proves my point.

The heat from volcanos melting the antartic ice proves your point of AGW due to human GHG emission?

I think I missed something there. Could you elaborate?

No,yes,you dont seem to care about that anyway.