Small accidents mean big trouble for supercollider

Hurray!

Well I for one am disappointed on several levels. First off I wanted to see (or not see) the Higgs. Secondly I hate it when it looks like a lot of resources have been thrown after bad...not saying this is the case here, but this is a heck of a bad showing/start.

OTOH I'm kind of glad these smug self important egomaniacs have been taken down a peg....I think they needed a little humility.

It's really disappointing. Without the LHC in operations, there will be no data to build the case for the ILC (assuming there are physics that require it).

Additionally, there is not really any new experimental data on the questions that physicists are focusing into.

It's true that Fermilab made/published a couple of good discoveries few weeks ago, but they are not really given a direction for new research programs.

The discovery that there is no such thing as a Higg boson or that there are supersymmetric particles out there will really provide good direction to the bunch of theories out there.

Can someone explain: What is the deal with not being able to run the thing in the Winter. Can't they get on the budget-payment-plan with their electric company, or what? Do the Swiss only use their electric fondue pots in the summer? Interesting, this sudden concern with operating costs, don't you think?

We're chasin' black holes and God particles here; and their playin' patta-cake with Redi Kilowatt?!?

Plug it in already.

Fuses prevent such damage, but nobody has superconducting fuses yet. So, catastrophic damage will be the norm, perhaps until Ames lab proves their superconducting-fuse concept below.

http://www.physorg.com/profile?code=fav&nid=138072175

Projected full power run date, Dec 21, 2012.

Get the kool-aid ready.

Projected full power run date, Dec 21, 2012.

Get the kool-aid ready.

LOL

[homer]awwwwww crap! [/homer]

Yay... an extra few months of life before the black hole eats us /kidding.

Mayday, they're on a budget. Winter months, electricity costs go up as people heat their homes.

What's sick is to assume there is some "pot of gold at the end of the rainbow" by firing up the thing. This attitude just goes to prove what I've been saying: there are people who don't care what the cost is. Not in monetary terms, not in human terms, the only goal is to play with a big toy that may (but probably won't) destroy the world. I'd be totally fine with it, if it wasn't MY world you were taking a risk with. I'm not so worried about the terrorists, honestly. Scientists who obviously can't handle their own project scare me shitless.

Scientists listen: YOU are the greatest terrorists. You are holding everyone hostage to your pet projects.

Mayday, they're on a budget. Winter months, electricity costs go up as people heat their homes.

What's sick is to assume there is some "pot of gold at the end of the rainbow" by firing up the thing. This attitude just goes to prove what I've been saying: there are people who don't care what the cost is. Not in monetary terms, not in human terms, the only goal is to play with a big toy that may (but probably won't) destroy the world. I'd be totally fine with it, if it wasn't MY world you were taking a risk with. I'm not so worried about the terrorists, honestly. Scientists who obviously can't handle their own project scare me shitless.

Scientists listen: YOU are the greatest terrorists. You are holding everyone hostage to your pet projects.

Oddly enough you are using a technology invented for the very thing you are protesting.
(The world wide web was invented for the LHC)

Damn those scientists and thier pet projects...

Enjoy your porn, moron.

What's sick is to assume there is some "pot of gold at the end of the rainbow" by firing up the thing. This attitude just goes to prove what I've been saying

Uh, yeah. An attitude that *you* are ascribing to them wholesale goes to "prove" another attitude that you pin on them. Gotta love that circular, self-congratulatory logic.

And of course it's perfectly ok to demonize them since it's not possible even in principle that they might have attitudes or opinions or priorites that are different than you but are *still* valid. After all, you *are* the center of the universe, n'est ce pas?