$2.5B spent, no alternative med cures

June 10, 2009 By MARILYNN MARCHIONE , AP Medical Writer
AP IMPACT: $2.5B spent, no alternative med cures (AP)

In this photo taken on Feb. 4, 2009, Elizabeth Karkosky a Tapas acupressure technique, with one hand cradling the back of her neck and the thumb and ring finger of the other hand in the corners of her eyes and the middle finger in the center at the 'third eye', during a therapy session in Portland, Ore. A $2 million government study will test whether this acupressure technique can prevent dieters from regaining weight. (AP Photo/Greg Wahl-Stephens)

(AP) -- Ten years ago the government set out to test herbal and other alternative health remedies to find the ones that work. After spending $2.5 billion, the disappointing answer seems to be that almost none of them do.

Echinacea for colds. Ginkgo biloba for memory. Glucosamine and chondroitin for arthritis. Black cohosh for menopausal hot flashes. Saw palmetto for prostate problems. Shark cartilage for cancer. All proved no better than dummy pills in big studies funded by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine. The lone exception: ginger capsules may help chemotherapy nausea.

As for therapies, acupuncture has been shown to help certain conditions, and yoga, massage, meditation and other relaxation methods may relieve symptoms like pain, anxiety and fatigue.

However, the government also is funding studies of purported energy fields, distance healing and other approaches that have little if any biological plausibility or scientific evidence.

Taxpayers are bankrolling studies of whether pressing various spots on your head can help with weight loss, whether brain waves emitted from a special "master" can help break cocaine addiction, and whether wearing magnets can help the painful wrist problem, carpal tunnel syndrome.

The acupressure weight-loss technique won a $2 million grant even though a small trial of it on 60 people found no statistically significant benefit - only an encouraging trend that could have occurred by chance. The researcher says the pilot study was just to see if the technique was feasible.

"You expect scientific thinking" at a federal science agency, said R. Barker Bausell, author of "Snake Oil Science" and a research methods expert at the University of Maryland, one of the agency's top-funded research sites. "It's become politically correct to investigate nonsense."

Many scientists say that unconventional treatments hold promise and deserve serious study, but that the federal center needs to be more skeptical and selective.

"There's not all the money in the world and you have to choose" what most deserves tax support, said Barrie Cassileth, integrative medicine chief at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.

"Many of the studies that have been funded I would not have funded because they seem irrational and foolish - studies on distant healing by prayer and energy healing, studies that are based on precepts and ideas that are contrary to what is known in terms of human physiology and disease," she said.

In an interview last year, shortly after becoming the federal center's new director, Dr. Josephine Briggs said it had a strong research record, and praised the many "big name" scientists who had sought its grants. She conceded there were no big wins from its first decade, other than a study that found acupuncture helped knee arthritis. That finding was called into question when a later, larger study found that sham treatment worked just as well.

"The initial studies were driven by some very strong enthusiasms, and now we're learning about how to layer evidence" and to do more basic science before testing a particular supplement in a large trial, said Briggs, who trained at Ivy League schools and has a respected scientific career.

"There are a lot of negative studies in conventional medicine," and the government's outlay is small compared to drug company spending, she added.

However, critics say that unlike private companies that face bottom-line pressure to abandon a drug that flops, the federal center is reluctant to admit a supplement may lack merit - despite a strategic plan pledging not to equivocate in the face of negative findings.

Echinacea is an example. After a large study by a top virologist found it didn't help colds, its fans said the wrong one of the plant's nine species had been tested. Federal officials agreed that more research was needed, even though they had approved the type used in the study.

"There's been a deliberate policy of never saying something doesn't work. It's as though you can only speak in one direction," and say a different version or dose might give different results, said Dr. Stephen Barrett, a retired physician who runs Quackwatch, a web site on medical scams.

Critics also say the federal center's research agenda is shaped by an advisory board loaded with alternative medicine practitioners. They account for at least nine of the board's 18 members, as required by its government charter. Many studies they approve for funding are done by alternative therapy providers; grants have gone to board members, too.

"It's the fox guarding the chicken coop," said Dr. Joseph Jacobs, who headed the Office of Alternative Medicine, a smaller federal agency that preceded the center's creation. "This is not science, it's ideology on the part of the advocates."

Briggs defended their involvement.

"If you're going to do a study on acupuncture, you're going to need acupuncture expertise," she said. These therapists "are very much believers in what they do," not unlike gastroenterologists doing a study of colonoscopy, and good study design can guard against bias, she said.

The center was handed a flawed mission, many scientists say.

Congress created it after several powerful members claimed health benefits from their own use of alternative medicine and persuaded others that this enormously popular field needed more study. The new center was given $50 million in 1999 (its budget was $122 million last year) and ordered to research unconventional therapies and nostrums that Americans were using to see which ones had merit.

That is opposite how other National Institutes of Health agencies work, where scientific evidence or at least plausibility is required to justify studies, and treatments go into wide use after there is evidence they work - not before.

"There's very little basic science behind these things. Most of it begins with a tradition, or personal testimony and people's beliefs, even as a fad. And then pressure comes: 'It's being popular, it's being used, it should be studied.' It turns things upside down," said Dr. Edward Campion, a senior editor who reviews alternative medicine research submitted to the New England Journal of Medicine.

That reasoning was used to justify the $2 million weight-loss study, approved in 2007. It will test Tapas acupressure, devised by Tapas Fleming, a California acupuncturist. Use of her trademarked method requires employing people she certifies, and the study needs eight.

It involves pressing on specific points on the face and head - the inner corners of the eyes are two - while focusing on a problem. Dr. Charles Elder, a Kaiser Permanente physician who runs an herbal and ayurvedic medicine clinic in Portland, Ore., is testing whether it can prevent dieters from regaining lost weight.

Say a person comes home and is tempted by Twinkies on the table. The solution: Start acupressure "and say something like 'I have an uncontrollable Twinkie urge,'" Elder said. Then focus on an opposite thought, like "I'm in control of my eating."

In Chinese medicine, the pressure is said to release natural energy in a place in the body "responsible for transforming animal desire into higher thoughts," Elder said.

In a federally funded pilot study, 30 dieters who were taught acupressure regained only half a pound six months later, compared with over three pounds for a comparison group of 30 others. However, the study widely missed a key scientific standard for showing that results were not a statistical fluke.

The pilot trial was just to see if the technique was feasible, Elder said. The results were good enough for the federal center to grant $2.1 million for a bigger study in 500 people that is under way now.

Alternative medicine research also is complicated by the subjective nature of many of the things being studied. Pain, memory, cravings, anxiety and fatigue are symptoms that people tolerate and experience in widely different ways.

Take a question like, "Does yoga work for back pain?" said Margaret Chesney, a psychologist who is associate director of the federally funded Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Maryland.

"What kind of yoga? What kind of back pain?" And what does it mean to "work" - to help someone avoid surgery, hold a job or need less medication?

Some things - the body meridians that acupuncturists say they follow, or energy forces that healers say they manipulate - cannot be measured, and many scientists question their existence.

Studying herbals is tough because they are not standardized as prescription drugs are required to be. One brand might contain a plant's flowers, another its seeds and another, stems and leaves, in varying amounts.

There are 150 makers of black cohosh "and probably no two are exactly the same, and probably some people are putting sawdust in capsules and selling it," said Norman Farnsworth, a federally funded herbal medicine researcher at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Even after a careful study, "you know one thing more precise and firm about what that agent did in that population with that outcome measurement, but you don't necessarily know the whole gamut of its effectiveness," as the echinacea study showed, Briggs said.

The center posts information on supplements and treatments on its Web site, and has a phone line for the public to ask questions - even when the answer is that not enough is known to rule in or rule out benefit or harm.

"I hope we are building knowledge and at least an informed consumer," Briggs said.

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magpies
Jun 10, 2009

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Yeah and im sure drug companys had nothing to do with this...
Modernmystic
Jun 10, 2009

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I could have told you that...and I'd have done it for a lot less than 2.5 billion.
Ricochet
Jun 10, 2009

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Don't forget that you have to pay yourself, everyone that helped you with the study, and usually the victi... uh, I mean, test subjects should be compensated as well...
makotech222
Jun 10, 2009

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Sweet a quote from a person from my college haha. UIC fTW
mongander
Jun 10, 2009

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How many trillion$ has the NCI squandered, to no avail?
E_L_Earnhardt
Jun 10, 2009

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Chemical cures for cancer show similar results.
Schnarr
Jun 10, 2009

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If alternative medicine worked it wouldn't be called alternative because we'd all be using it.
Ashy
Jun 11, 2009

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Echinacea have very selective action, calendula, kalanhoe, and aloe usually better for colds. Ginkgo biloba is not for memory but for bloodstream and vessels. Glucosamine and chondroitin are moot point, sometimes people using them for arthritis but usially they for ligaments care. Etceteras and so on.

What was studied at this study?
Egnite
Jun 11, 2009

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Ofc this report is full of truth, I believe this as much as I believe Aspartame is good for us and doesn't cause many illnesses which bigPharma can profit from...

If everyone eat fresh, natural produce rather than chemical infested equivelants, got plenty of sleep and exercise then the majority of todays illnesses wouldn't exist, but there's no profit in that is there..
Nan2
Jun 11, 2009

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That is patently false. Although healthy eating and lifestyles are a factor in preventing illness, leading healthier and longer lives, it is no panacea against chronic diseases that are progressive, their etiologies mysterious. DNA and hereditary factors are as profound if not more so. Your predispositions to a particular problem as you age will be determined by it. Will you get arthritis? Will you get cardiovascular disease?

As a former health care provider on the front lines for decades, I can tell you that I've seen all too many who despite living extremely healthy lifestyles are stricken with chronic disease and illnesses at early ages. Children whose short time in life and whose parents actively engaged in healthy lifestyles with them, also become chronically ill with diabetes that isn't a hand to mouth or sugar problem. It is important to be proactive in your own health. Eating well, exercising and living a balanced life important but again, it will not prevent many catastrophic illnesses.

A holistic approach to illnesses and disease is rewarding in that the patient is treated as a whole person than that of a disease or illness. The mind/body connection is also a mystery which science has yet to decipher and measure.

The distrust of the medical community is well deserved as incentives are backwards in this economic paradigm. Its finally reached a critical mass, reforms in health care must include more clarity and time, education and a patient centric rather than profit centric approach. There is no substitute for this bitter medicine the business community must now swallow as they failed and failed miserably to provide quality health care, efficient health care, accessible health care.

In providing basic and standard care that is accessible the cost savings will be vast.

By merely standardizing billing alone, $300 Billion could be saved annually. The ratio of actual providers of care in hospitals versus billing agents reversed from its current status. Business incentives that are now counterproductive must be removed to successfully heal health care.
JCSamuelson
Jun 11, 2009

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I'm continually amazed at the number of people who comment at this site whose only purpose seems to be to crap all over it.

Big pharma? Sure. They're hardly altruistic. It is, after all, a for profit business. However, consider this:

The #1 drug company in the world - Johnson & Johnson had $63.7 billion in sales during 2008, an increase of 4.3% over 2007. So what's the cost of Tylenol Extra Strength Pain Reliever / Fever Reducer 500 mg, Cool Caplets @ Walgreens? $0.10 per dose.

The #3 drug company in the world is the Bayer Group, which reports global revenues of $48 billion (profit is down, though). So what's the cost of Bayer Aspirin, Coated Tablets? $0.06 per dose.

So how much is Oscillococcinum, a homeopathic "remedy" that, according TO THEIR OWN SPOKESPEOPLE contains nothing? First, what did they say?

"Strength is a nonissue in homeopathic medicine," says Boiron [the maker of Oscillococcinum] spokeswoman Gina Casey. "Just because we can't detect the molecular activity doesn't mean it doesn't work."

..and...

As Boiron's Casey explained when asked if a remedy made from the heart and liver of a duck was safe: "Of course it is safe. There's nothing in it."

Cost of Boiron Oscillococcinum 6 plus 6 Dose Bonus Pack (@ $13.62; list $25.94): $1.14 per dose - 11 times the cost of Tylenol, 18 times the cost of Bayer, and it contains next to nothing except filler!

"The dilution of Oscillococcinum goes further still: "200C," with a potency equal to 1/100 multiplied by 1/100 200 times. Robert Park, a University of Maryland physicist, figures the odds of a consumer actually getting even a single molecule of duck heart or liver in Oscillococcinum are less than those of getting hit by an asteroid."

Read here: http://usnews.com...21_2.htm

Who's got your best interest at heart?
Fakeer
Jun 11, 2009

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Up until a 100 years ago all medicine was 'alternative'. After big pharma came onto the horizon the concept of 'scientific' medicine supplanted any remains of the holistic approach towards health. No doubt the approach may be scientific but the solution was entirely reactive. Nothing short of chemical warfare. Prevention you say? When is the last time prevention of disease was beneficial to a meds corporation?

Most traditional approaches towards holistic health require lifestyle changes including food habits. This once again is counter-productive to producers of 'modern' medicines. Most beneficial effects of traditional supplements like Chinese herbs only have an effect in the long term possibly due to the trace elements found in many of those herbs. Indians on the other hand consume herbal medicines on a regular basis right in their food - otherwise known as spices. Combined with meditative exercises like Tai Chi or Yoga the benefits are immeasurable.

Turmeric for example was recently 'scientifically' determined to reduce the risk of prostate cancer. Think Bayer will get on it and starts selling it as a preventative supplement? Nice try.

There's no such thing as alternative medicine, only an alternative lifestyle. You can't keep the lifestyle you have and also expect some herbs to cure the resulting negative consequences.
Rohitasch
Jun 14, 2009

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Have they tried sacrificing chicken yet? Chopping off a drunk chicken's head and stuffing a sparrow's nest up one's anus at the same time has an instantaneous curing effect on nearby patients suffering from piles and hernia. Its the truth. Fund me, government, and I'll publish a big paper on it!
Soylent
Jun 15, 2009

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"The dilution of Oscillococcinum goes further still: "200C," with a potency equal to 1/100 multiplied by 1/100 200 times. Robert Park, a University of Maryland physicist, figures the odds of a consumer actually getting even a single molecule of duck heart or liver in Oscillococcinum are less than those of getting hit by an asteroid."


That's a vast understatement.

Delution by a factor of 10^400 is enough that if the visible universe was entirely filled with such pills the odds of finding a single molecule of duck heart or oscillococcinum is still only 1 in 1^300.

You have the same odds of finding a single molecule of active substance in a pill as you have of taking a bucket of 490 fair 6-sided dice, shaking the bucket and then emptying it on a hard marble floor and having every single dice come up number 1.
Birger
Jun 15, 2009

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Older mainstream medicines often were derived from herbs and suchlike, but now those natural substances that actually work have *alredy* been put to use for medicine production.

What remains among the "alternative" substances are the ones that do not work! This is why pharma companies have to invest billions in testing sythetic substances in their search for new medicines that work.
Nan2
Jun 15, 2009

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Rohitesch: You provided me the best cure on the planet this morning, mirthful laughter! Sign me up, I'll hep you for a cool $250K tax free (a bargain!).
Soylent
Jun 16, 2009

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What remains among the "alternative" substances are the ones that do not work! This is why pharma companies have to invest billions in testing sythetic substances in their search for new medicines that work.


"Do you know what they call alternative medicine that has been proven to work?

Medicine." - Tim Minchin.

By definition alternative medicine is the medicine that either hasn't been shown to work or has been shown not to work. Thanks to these studies we have now moved a few therapies from the former category to the latter at great expense.
itworkedforme
Jun 16, 2009

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There are just too many people alternative do work for!
I was skeptical , then came cancer and I tested some alternative. BEST THING I COULD HAVE DONE!
The Dr's said I was going to die, and yes it got worse for a while but now 3 yrs later and still cance FREE , and the Dr's say with a smug, "It must have been something we did" lol
The FDA who governs these things are too closly tied to the pharmacutical companies.
Also , isn't it funny that many of the Dr's in Europe pratice these things (cnsidered alternative here) and are sucessful in europe but it is considered quackery here?
If it is reasonably save or cheap it must be quackery.
Our society is based on making money and in the medical industry , LOTS OF IT.
That is in much of alternative also.
Another interesting thing I have know many people with grave illnesses that have gotten better or cured with alternatve and you NEVER hear about that in the main stream.
Talk about unfairness or surpression.
At any rate I am very glad I went that way.
No cancer and a friend went totally mainstream and untold cost and pain.
Now he's dead!
If they want to test alternative let the alternative practioners get involved to show the hows and what fors.You wouldn't bring in a non dr to test medical procedures, just as the FDA is not trained on using these alternatives.
itworkedforme
Jun 16, 2009

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Did you know a good bit of medical doctors in Europe practice homeopathy?
And it seems to work well for them.
The Us has the most up to date modern equiptment and drugs and yet the mortality rate is mediocre at best compared to other countries.
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