Study shows strong evidence that cloud changes may exacerbate global warming
July 23, 2009
This image shows unique cloud patterns over the Pacific Ocean of the coast of Baja California, an area of great interest to Amy Clement and Robert Burgman of the University of Miami and Joel Norris of Scripps Oceanography, as they study the role of low-level clouds in climate change. Credit: NASA
The role of clouds in climate change has been a major question for decades. As the earth warms under increasing greenhouse gases, it is not known whether clouds will dissipate, letting in more of the sun's heat energy and making the earth warm even faster, or whether cloud cover will increase, blocking the Sun's rays and actually slowing down global warming.
In a study published in the July 24 issue of Science, researchers Amy Clement and Robert Burgman from the University of Miami's Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science and Joel Norris from Scripps Institution of Oceanography at UC San Diego begin to unravel this mystery. Using observational data collected over the last 50 years and complex climate models, the team has established that low-level stratiform clouds appear to dissipate as the ocean warms, indicating that changes in these clouds may enhance the warming of the planet.
Because of inconsistencies in historical observations, trends in cloudiness have been difficult to identify. The team broke through this cloud conundrum by removing errors from cloud records and using multiple data sources for the northeast Pacific Ocean, one of the most well-studied areas of low-level stratiform clouds in the world. The result of their analysis was a surprising degree of agreement between two multi-decade datasets that were not only independent of each other, but that employed fundamentally different measurement methods. One set consisted of collected visual observations from ships over the last 50 years, and the other was based on data collected from weather satellites.
"The agreement we found between the surface-based observations and the satellite data was almost shocking," said Clement, a professor of meteorology and physical oceanography at the University of Miami, and winner of the American Geophysical Union's 2007 Macelwane Award for her groundbreaking work on climate change. "These are subtle changes that take place over decades. It is extremely encouraging that a satellite passing miles above the earth would document the same thing as sailors looking up at a cloudy sky from the deck of a ship."
What was not so encouraging, however, was the fact that most of the state-of-the-art climate models from modeling centers around the world do not reproduce this cloud behavior. Only one, the Hadley Centre model from the U.K. Met Office, was able to reproduce the observations. "We have a long way to go in getting the models right, but the Hadley Centre model results can help point us in the right direction," said co-author Burgman, a research scientist at the University of Miami.
Together, the observations and the Hadley Centre model results provide evidence that low-level stratiform clouds, which currently shield the earth from the sun's radiation, may dissipate in warming climates, allowing the oceans to further heat up, which would then cause more cloud dissipation.
"This is somewhat of a vicious cycle potentially exacerbating global warming," said Clement. "But these findings provide a new way of looking at clouds changes. This can help to improve the simulation of clouds in climate models, which will lead to more accurate projections of future climate changes. "
One key finding in the study is that it is not the warming of the ocean alone that reduces cloudiness -- a weakening of the trade winds also appears to play a critical role. All models predict a warming ocean, but if they don't have the correct relationship between clouds and atmospheric circulation, they won't produce a realistic cloud response.
"I am optimistic that there will be major progress in understanding global cloud changes during the next several years," said Norris. "The representation of clouds in models is improving, and observational records are being reprocessed to remove spurious variability associated with satellite changes and other problems."
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Check out photo number 19
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(if they know clouds at all)
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Jul 24, 2009
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The UN IPCC models do not account for clouds properly, as documented here. They also do not account for solar variation, nor the giant oceanic cycles. Let's see some articles exploring those major areas, too.
Jul 24, 2009
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You forgot to mention geological emissions (volcanoes, geysers, erosion, etc.).
Jul 24, 2009
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Certainly there are serious downside risks associated with feedback loops that cause excessive heating or cooling of the planet, but in the geologic history of the planet we see these processes are rare and often self limiting. They are not as much a reason for changes in human activity as would be the approach of a massive meteor or rash of earthquakes or volcanoes.
At a minimum, delete from the article unfounded suppositions about the "cause" of global warming and restrict the discourse to explaining our ignorance about environmental processes.
Jul 25, 2009
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Last time I checked clouds made the earth warmer as they trap heat 24/7 vs clear skies which allow heat about 8hrs peak as the early, late daylight have much lower heating ability, the clear of 16hrs/day would let out much more than it received. Thus more cooling if clear.
One only needs to check out night time temps clear vs cloudy to comfirm this.
Also during 9-11 when jets stopped making contrails the temps changed radically by several degrees. Though it was both higher and lower as above more hours radiating out than receiving.
So folks let's be careful what you predict isn't against the facts.
Jul 25, 2009
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You're right -- they UNDERESTIMATE the warming that will be caused by clouds. Just as they underestimated the rate at which the north pole cap would melt, and the contribution of permafrost, etc. The IPCC faced a lot of unknowns, and they generally always took the more conservative (i.e. optimistic) assumption. So it's not surprising that their predictions were overly rosy.
Yes they did.
Yes they did. But I think you're referring to an article a month or two ago refining the model of the "Atlantic conveyor belt". The impact of that refinement was limited largely to regional effects (i.e. northern Europe.)
In general you're correct -- there have been refinements to make our predictions both more optimistic and more pessimistic. But on average, more pessimistic.
Oh, and I agree with you 100% about the inadequacy of any treaty or protocol which fails to reign in China and India. And for that matter, the Kyoto Protocol would be inadequate even if all countries on Earth signed it. Renewable energy is the only viable long-term solution. Kyoto is widely regarded as just a temporary stop-gap measure.
Jul 28, 2009
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Which is a nice way of saying that they cooked the data.
Jul 28, 2009
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Why do the proponents of AGW feel they have to be so certain that they are right when they cannot possibly know for certain that their theory is correct? If it turns out that astro-physicists like Svensmark are right, the damage done to the credibility of all these hysterical climate scientists will be irreparable.
Jul 29, 2009
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AGW is a hoax.
If there were an actual greenhouse effect, this year's abnormally cool summer in the mid and upper lattitudes of the US would be impossible.
If there really were a global blanketting effect caused by "greenhouse gases" then we should see the following trends worsening every year and quite literally every day of every year with little or no deviation.
1) Should break "record high overnight low temperature" for each night almost every night, and they should virtually always be "above average".
That is, every night the over night low should be "warmer than average" or even "record high" for that particular day of the year. It isn't.
2) Record daytime highs for each day of the year, almost day of every year.
3) Above average daytime high for each day of the year every year with little or no deviation.
4) All of the three trends above would be exceptionally pronounced at mid and upper lattitudes, both in northern and southern hemisphere.
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We simply do not see these effects. The glaring example is again in North America, where the northern and mid lattitudes are experiencing exceptionally cool summer compared to average.
Jul 29, 2009
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This is why you see the terminology shifting to "global climate change", and why the AGW/climate change rhetoric/debate needs to end.
Obviously there's not unilateral and absolute warming across the globe, the system is too complex for anything to manifest that way. Any climate change whether natural or man-made will manifest in a vast variety of ways, many potentially inconsistent with the ways mankind has come to depend on them.
And one guarantee is that climate does change. Combine this uncertainty, with the great potential for fossil fuel supplies to fall behind the growing needs of developing nations (which I'm making no statement here about timeframe, only that this too will happen), and you can see that mankind is more exposed to potential humanitarian disasters (war) as widely available water, food and energy (the very fundamentals of civilized life) will all be compromised.
In order to minimize the effect of any given climatological pattern change or energy cost elevation, in any given area, we need to develop sustainable societies. i.e. any given population unit (a household, city, state, nation, and anything inbetween) needs to be made to be more self-reliant, which has amazing beneficial implications for world-society, economy and environment.
What people need to be made to realize is that the people who have probably the best knowledge of when fossil availability is going to fall behind demand, are the same people who profit most from it (they don't want you to know, and won't let you know until it's too late to do anything except pay). And while they will want to maintain their cash-flow into any future, I can all but guarantee they will not be able to maintain supply to meet rising demand as China and India continue to develop in the coming decades, (and that they are already directing their companies towards sustainable energies should tell you it IS coming), and prices will rise probably quite quickly, probably to very uncomfortable levels for your average person.
I guess the moral of the story being we REALLY don't want to be behind the "sustainable-curve"...