British engineers slam home wind turbines as 'eco-bling'

January 20, 2010
Installers for Namaste Solar connect solar panels to the roof of a home

Enlarge

Installers for Namaste Solar connect solar panels to the roof of a home on in 2009 in Boulder, Colorado. In Great Britain, installing wind turbines and solar panels in people's homes is "eco-bling" that will not help meet Britain's targets on cutting carbon emissions, engineers warned Wednesday.

Installing wind turbines and solar panels in people's homes is "eco-bling" that will not help meet Britain's targets on cutting carbon emissions, engineers warned Wednesday.

In a new report by the Royal Academy of Engineering (RAE), Professor Doug King said it was better to adapt buildings to make them more energy efficient than try to offset energy use with "on-site renewable energy generation."

The leader of Britain's main opposition Conservative party, David Cameron, is among those who have installed , fixing one onto the roof of his home in the plush west London district of Notting Hill.

"Eco-bling is a term I coined to describe unnecessary renewable energy visibly attached to the outside of poorly designed buildings," King told the Daily Mail newspaper ahead of the report's publication.

"It achieves little or nothing. If you build a building that is just as energy-hungry as every other building, and you put a few wind turbines and on the outside that addresses a few percent of that building's , you have not achieved anything.

"It's just about trying to say to the general public that 'I'm being good, I'm putting renewable energy on my building'."

In existing buildings, which account for the vast majority of those in use in 2050, King suggested low cost alternatives such as installing thermostats on central heating systems or using low-energy .

The report said it was also vital to engineer buildings to minimise energy demands in the first place, including using masonry to store heat or ensuring a good use of natural light in homes and offices.

"Before renewable energy generation is even considered it is vital to ensure that buildings are as energy efficient as possible, otherwise the potential benefits are simply wasted in offsetting unnecessary consumption," it said.

However, it warned a lack of skills in understanding in buildings meant the construction industry would struggle to meet government targets to make all new buildings "zero carbon" by 2020.

(c) 2010 AFP

4.4 /5 (29 votes)  

Filter


Move the slider to adjust rank threshold, so that you can hide some of the comments.


Display comments: newest first

M_N
Jan 20, 2010

Rank: 3.9 / 5 (7)
I'm not sure why someone rated this story 1 star. Its message is spot-on: it is MUCH better to address sources of inefficiency before thinking about adding solar panels or wind turbines. The cost-benefit ratio is much better. Solar hot water systems should also be installed before photovoltaics are considered.

I have no problem with adding these things AFTER inefficiencies have been addressed.
Shootist
Jan 21, 2010

Rank: 3.3 / 5 (4)
Screw inefficiency. Either electricity is so cheap its nearly free or we will all freeze in the dark. There is no middle ground. The western economies are designed around access to cheap energy. Without cheap and plentiful energy the economy will crash. Forever.

George Westinghouse said it best, "We'll make electricity so cheap only the rich will be able to afford candles".

100 1000 megawatt fission plants will be a good place to start. After that we'll bulldoze West Virginia flat to dig out King Coal for coal liquidfication/gasification. That should last until we can bring fusion and solar power satellites online.

I'll fight you green weenies til my last breath.
russcelt
Jan 21, 2010

Rank: 1 / 5 (1)
While Professor King may be correct from an energy engineering and economic perspective, if implemented through government policy, it will further degrade participatory democracy in Britain. The implication is that eco-bling is harmful. When in reality it is the fear is that eco-bling will stop people from implementing meaningful changes in their habits. This seriously underestimates people's ability to adapt when given full information. By effectively raising the entry fee to participate in green living Professor King's study and the way it is reported will only strengthen centralized control. And when central planners eventually get it wrong the consequences will be catastrophic.
DozerIAm
Jan 21, 2010

Rank: not rated yet
Shootist, I have no idea if you are being sarcatsic or sincere, but either way thanks for the chuckle!

Russcelt, you have it exactly right - people should embrace the concept that we (people) will sometimes do it wrong, sometimes do it half right, and maybe if we are really lucky sometimes do it completely right - but that's still a far more efficient model that what happens when the government gets involved!
DozerIAm
Jan 21, 2010

Rank: 2 / 5 (1)
Oh, and while its implied from my previous post I'll explicitly add to M.N. - I disagree with the tone of your post more than the scientific content of it. You are accurate that it makes sense to do the "biggest bang for the buck" projects first before adding on, for example, a small wind turbine. However, the reality is most people have to contend with issues such as THEIR HOUSE ALREADY EXISTS. Ok, maybe the caps for emphasis were a bit much. Still, it seems you are reasoning in a vacuum. New construction is the time to plan "green". I've looked into heat sinks and PVs and for my existing home, it would work out to a net increase in cost. However, a small wind turbine might pay for itself before the warrantee expired.
bobertjmurphy
Jan 21, 2010

Rank: not rated yet
Professor King may be right from an engineering perspective, but he ignores the social/PR issue.

It's easy for right-wingers to see energy sustainability as something only "green weenies" worry about, as Shootist so aptly put it. But when a prominent conservative ostentatiously displays his renewable-energy bling, it makes it possible for Pub Bloke in the UK, or Joe Sixpack in the US, to consider green alternatives without fear of mockery by his mates or his pals at the gun club.

I'd love it if American arch-conservative Rush Limbaugh went on his radio program and gushed about his windmills.
DozerIAm
Jan 21, 2010

Rank: 5 / 5 (1)
if they made financial sense, I'm sure he would.
david_42
Jan 24, 2010

Rank: 5 / 5 (1)
Money spent on eco-bling is far better applied to improving home efficiency. I cut my electrical bills 75% by installing a heat pump and upgrading insulation. This cost less than 1/5th the cost of photovoltaic panels that could only power my house in the summer and would be useless in the winter.
DozerIAm
Jan 24, 2010

Rank: not rated yet
David I am with you - I switched to CF's and I am saving money every month. I also looked into doing a heat pump but unfortunately there isn't room around the property to put one in. Next up is replacing my single pane w/storms to insulated modern windows, for some more savings. There's some up front cost of course, but far less than going PV or Solar.
Rank 4.4 /5 (29 votes)
Relevant PhysicsForums posts
  • Calling function with no input argument
    created13 hours ago
  • Force free body diagram problem on gym equipment
    created14 hours ago
  • Empirical data regarding shower heads and water
    created22 hours ago
  • feed hold button on CNC lathe
    createdFeb 09, 2012
  • RFAC in Fortran
    createdFeb 09, 2012
  • dynamics 2/32
    createdFeb 08, 2012
  • More from Physics Forums - General Engineering

More news stories

Google users warned of threat to smartphone wallets

Users of Google smartphone wallets were being warned on Friday that there is a way to crack pass codes intended to thwart thieves from going on illicit shopping sprees.

Technology / Internet

created 6 hours ago | popularity 5 / 5 (2) | comments 0

Anonymous knocks CIA website offline (Update)

The website of the Central Intelligence Agency was inaccessible on Friday after the hacker group Anonymous claimed to have knocked it offline.

Technology / Internet

created 8 hours ago | popularity 5 / 5 (8) | comments 13

New error-correcting codes guarantee the fastest possible rate of data transmission

Error-correcting codes are one of the triumphs of the digital age. They’re a way of encoding information so that it can be transmitted across a communication channel — such as an optical fiber o ...

Technology / Computer Sciences

created 16 hours ago | popularity 4.9 / 5 (8) | comments 6 | with audio podcast

New power source discovered

(PhysOrg.com) -- Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and RMIT University have made a breakthrough in energy storage and power generation.

Technology / Energy & Green Tech

created 15 hours ago | popularity 4.8 / 5 (25) | comments 8 | with audio podcast

Small modular reactor design could be a 'SUPERSTAR'

(PhysOrg.com) -- Though most of today's nuclear reactors are cooled by water, we've long known that there are alternatives; in fact, the world's first nuclear-powered electricity in 1951 came from a reactor ...

Technology / Energy & Green Tech

created 16 hours ago | popularity 4.3 / 5 (12) | comments 22 | with audio podcast


Humans may have helped the decline of African rainforests 3000 years ago

(PhysOrg.com) -- Large areas of rainforests in Central Africa mysteriously disappeared over three thousand years ago, to be replaced by savannas. The prevailing theory has been that the cause was a change ...

Complex wiring of the nervous system may rely on a just a handful of genes and proteins

Researchers at the Salk Institute have discovered a startling feature of early brain development that helps to explain how complex neuron wiring patterns are programmed using just a handful of critical genes. ...

The power of estrogen -- male snakes attract other males

A new study has shown that boosting the estrogen levels of male garter snakes causes them to secrete the same pheromones that females use to attract suitors, and turned the males into just about the sexiest ...

Putting the squeeze on planets outside our solar system

(PhysOrg.com) -- Using high-powered lasers, scientists at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and collaborators discovered that molten magnesium silicate undergoes a phase change in the liquid state, abruptly ...

Could Venus be shifting gear?

(PhysOrg.com) -- ESA’s Venus Express spacecraft has discovered that our cloud-covered neighbour spins a little slower than previously measured. Peering through the dense atmosphere in the infrared, the ...

Fool's gold may prove an unlikely alternative to overexploited catalytic materials

Catalytic materials, which lower the energy barriers for chemical reactions, are used in everything from the commercial production of chemicals to catalytic converters in car engines. However, with current catalytic materials ...