NASA: Good night moon, hello new rocket technology
February 1, 2010
This image released by NASA in 2003 shows a partial moon that was photographed by an Expedition 7 crewmember from the International Space Station.
(AP) -- President Barack Obama is redirecting America's space program, killing NASA's $100 billion plans to return astronauts to the moon and using much of that money for new rocket technology research.
The moon plan, which NASA had already spent $9.1 billion on, was based on old technology and revisiting old places astronauts had already been, officials said. The previous NASA chief, in selling the old moon plan, had even called it "Apollo on steroids." The rockets were based on space shuttle boosters.
"Simply put, we're putting the science back into the rocket science at NASA," White House science adviser John Holdren said at a budget briefing Monday.
The $4 billion that NASA spends yearly on human space exploration will now be used for what NASA and White House officials called dramatic changes in rocketry, including in-orbit fueling. They said eventually those new technologies would be used to send astronauts to a nearby asteroid, a brief foray back to the moon, or the Martian moons.
The White House plan was short on details, such as where astronauts would fly next, on what type of rocketship, or when. However, officials were quick to point out the failures of the Bush administration's moon program, called Constellation. It included the construction of two types of rockets, Ares I and Ares V, and an Orion crew capsule. All were canceled. Shutting down the program will cost about $2.5 billion, NASA said.
Former President George W. Bush proposed the moon mission after the Feb. 1, 2003, space shuttle Columbia disaster that claimed seven lives - exactly seven years ago Monday.
Besides redirecting money to new technologies, NASA is getting an extra $6 billion over five years to encourage companies to build private spaceships that NASA could rent. Many of those companies are run by Internet pioneers. The companies included in the pilot project include Blue Origin, which is run by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. Another firm already building private rockets is run by PayPal founder Elon Musk.
NASA will also spend an additional $2.5 billion over five years for more research on how global warming is affecting Earth, including replacing a carbon dioxide monitoring satellite that crashed last year. NASA will also extend the life by several years of the International Space Station, which had been slated for retirement in 2016. NASA's yearly budget is $19 billion.
NASA said if the private companies work well on their unproven spaceships, astronauts could fly in them to the space station as soon as 2016. After the next five space shuttle flights, NASA will have to hitch rides to the space station on Russian rockets.
"The truth is we were not on a sustainable path to get back to the moon," NASA administrator Charles Bolden said in a telephone conference call. "We were neglecting investments in key technologies."
Congressional officials howled over lost programs and jobs, but it is hard for Congress to save such a large program that is being cut with redistributed money.
Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., called the cancellation of the moon program the "death march for the future of U.S. human space flight."
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$10B in costs already absorbed
5,000 to 10,000 lost jobs
Savings? you tell me - less income tax, fewer spinoffs, perhaps a net of $10/yr per tax payer?
Risk: End of manned space technology know-how
Impact on economic recovery
Ceding the moon to China.
Repeating the cycle again in 10 years.
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I doubt there are any. Could you please name few former NASA bosses leaving the organization and establishing their own ventures capitalizing on those imaginary new technologies originally developed within NASA manned program?
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You compare your President to communists, when he does the most un-Left thing, discontinuing a huge STATE-run program and handing it over to private companies?!? Seriously, you guys really can't keep one bit of consistency, can you?
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If I remember correctly it was a communist leader that started the space race and the space industry?
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Not to mention how many robotic missions could be sent to high interest science targets in the solar system that would provide decades of research potential with a quarter of the $100 Billion cost.
Sorry for the diatribe but this is one of the smartest things Obama could have done to help the overall advancement of space exploration.
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My gosh, where in the world this is communism? This is the best incentive to capitalism! Obama administration is trying to create more high tech jobs, motivating private companies to develop bold technologies and making NASA a partner to private entrepreneurship. Bush was the one that buried American technology (including stem cell)!
I agree with you, RoboticExplorer
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I'm not intending to put any nation or political philosophy up or down.. but if you don't give credit and criticism where it's due, you're not to be taken seriously.
I hope the changes to the space program work out for the best. I honestly don't know if it is a good thing or a bad thing, though I did have strong doubts about the constellation program. Perhaps this new plan will get torn apart by a later administration anyway as is often the case.
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Yes it will mean a loss of jobs in AL/TX/FL, but the cost of those people is one of the things making space flight prohibitively expensive in the first place. I love the cynicism of these congressmen bemoaning the "end of human spaceflight". They are trying to protect govt subsidy of their local economies, nothing else.
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:)
Regrds
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Now we have a chance.
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One should worry about the unskilled labor who won't be able to find another job (e.g. administrators). But somehow I have a premonition that no administrators will be let go.
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Developing plasma rockets and living on mars 50 years from now is waaaaay more important than playing golf on the moon ten years from now.
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In orbit fueling costs more than sending fuel up as part of a mission, unless the fuel is coming from the moon. Theoretically you can save all the unused fuel in a depot. In practice, that means that all your flights have to have the same orbit, or close to it. This flexibility reduction is useless.
By all means, let's push the VASMIR effort. It would be an enormous savings. But more important is to mine fuel from the moon because access to space is 50 to 100x cheaper when you take both gravity and atmosphere into account.
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Frankly, the people who complain about government inefficiency (i.e., long waits in line at the DMV/Social Security offices) are the same who cry for reduced government spending. You can't have it both ways!
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Really? Hey I am all for unmanned missions, and I think NASA is a bloated money pit, HOWEVER,
NASA gets 17-18 billion this year. The military gets 762 billion. you could transfer 100 billion over to NASA, and the military would STILL be getting more than it did in 2006 (601 billion that year).
What is the military spending 161 billion on that it wasn't 4 years ago???
I just think that we have our priorities wrong.