Team finds subtropical waters flushing through Greenland fjord

dachpyarvile, worldwide 1998 is still the warmest year on record, though virtually tied with 2005. 1934 only applies to the US.

dachpyarvile, worldwide 1998 is still the warmest year on record, though virtually tied with 2005. 1934 only applies to the US.

dachpyarvile, worldwide 1998 is still the warmest year on record, though virtually tied with 2005. 1934 only applies to the US.

The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth's surface.

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Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north as 81° 29' in ice-free water.

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At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.

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…formerly the waters about Spitzbergen held an even summer temperature of about 3° Celsius; this year recorded temperatures up to 15°, and last winter the ocean did not freeze over even on the north coast of Spitzbergen.

If this warming continues it may get warm enough on Greenland that it can be resettled again after a 700 yr hiatus....

Actually, the "1998 as hottest year" data recently was corrected by NASA. The actual hottest year on record is now 1934, followed very closely by 1998.

... I think you will find that 1934 is way down the list of global warmest years.

I see dachpy is still up to the same tricks! I don't usually engage in conversation with trolls but I have to ask, where are the references to the global temperature of 1934 being the warmest recorded?

I see dachpy is still up to the same tricks! I don't usually engage in conversation with trolls but I have to ask, where are the references to the global temperature of 1934 being the warmest recorded?

More than 50 years later, a successful effort was made to rescue one of the downed airplanes from beneath 250 feet of ice. If the Greenland icecap is melting because of human activity, how does one explain this airplane pulled from beneath 250 ft of ice?

I am intrigued about this idea of 1934 being the warmest year globally, . All of the references and measurements I have to hand say this is highly unlikely and that this was the warmest year recorded for the contiguous USA. Are there any links to any papers or even blogs that support the global record for 1934?

We provide an analysis of Greenland temperature records to compare the current (1995–2005) warming period with the previous (1920–1930) Greenland warming. We find that the current Greenland warming is not unprecedented in recent Greenland history. Temperature increases in the two warming periods are of a similar magnitude, however, the rate of warming in 1920–1930 was about 50% higher than that in 1995–2005.

You think the New York Post is an unbiased source as well? Rich Lowry unbiased? Wow ...

JayK what would it take to prove to you AGW doesnt exist?

1998, not 1995. He misspoke, again. The warmest year on record is 1998

B - Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming

Yes, but only just. I also calculated the trend for the period 1995 to 2009. This trend (0.12C per decade) is positive, but not significant at the 95% significance level. The positive trend is quite close to the significance level. Achieving statistical significance in scientific terms is much more likely for longer periods, and much less likely for shorter periods.

Mr. Jones seems quite certain about his 1995 statement.

The way that the Daily Fail wrote it was misleading and the only way to get the full understanding of his quote was to read the full transcript.

For another researcher to get the data and methodologies the authors will provide full documentation upon a justifiable request.

Maybe I've misunderstood your description of the situation, though.

Straneo adds that the study highlights how little is known about ocean-glacier interactions, which is a connection not currently included in climate models.

It is climate-science journals where they are trying to publish, right?

which could flood into the North Atlantic and disrupt a global system of currents, known as the Ocean Conveyor.

I didn't see that the massive currents that sweep out of the north and along the European coasts suddenly doesn't exist. Have a link?

So lets try to find common ground. Did the ground based global temperature raise by somewhere between .5 and .7 deg C since the beginning of the industrial age?

Yes, CarolinaScotsman, that's right, and it is amazing that only you and a handful of other great scientific minds actually can simplify the entire debate down to that one "fact" about global climate change.

Wrong. The Northwest passage was open, again, during this period so you'll have to say that the northern hemisphere was, at a minimum, affected.

The NW Passage was open, you say .... odd it is then that the first west to east transit of the NW Passage was by the RCMP schooner St. Roch.

"The RCMP schooner St. Roch allowed the first effective patrol of Canada's Arctic territory. It was the first vessel to navigate the Northwest Passage from west to east ( 1940- 1942), also the first to navigate the Passage in one season ( 1944), and also the first to circumnavigate North America ( 1950)." http://www.econom...lice.htm

The next was the Manhattan 1969. The conclusion of its' passage was that: "the Northwest Passage may never be feasible for commercial ocean traffic,"

http://www.gi.ala.../ASF6/63

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dachpyarvile is clearly the master of the 'Gish Gallop'.