IBM wants traffic lights to stop your car
May 26, 2010 by Lin Edwards
LED traffic light in Forest Hill, New South Wales. Image credit: Wikipedia.
(PhysOrg.com) -- IBM has filed a patent application for a traffic light system that can remotely stop and start the engines of vehicles, with the aim of increasing fuel consumption efficiency at busy intersections.
The system would be able to receive position information from vehicles waiting at red lights to determine a queue of participating vehicles stopped at the signal. It would then determine the time still to elapse before the lights turn green, and if this time is over a set threshold (such as two minutes) the traffic light would then send signals to the vehicle engines to stop them.
When the lights turn green, a “start-engine notification” would be sent to the front vehicle to start its engine first, and a signal would be sent to the second vehicle in the queue an “optimal time” later, and so on.
The IBM patent says the system could be applied to traffic signals at intersections, railway crossings, or other transportation signals for “indicating correct moments to stop and to proceed.” Its stated aims are to reduce wastage of fuel and optimize the movement of vehicles through the intersection or crossing.
The patent states that with “increasing vehicle usage there may be more traffic and longer wait times at traffic signals,” resulting in wasted fuel if the vehicle engines are kept running. It acknowledges that most drivers do not turn off their vehicles’ engines in such situations, and that more fuel may be used in restarting the engine than in keeping it running if it is stopped for too short a time. The system would therefore take into account the time remaining before the signal changes to determine if the vehicle’s engine should be stopped.
The proposed traffic light system would gather data from traffic signal clocks, GPS data on vehicle positions, traffic load information (perhaps from weight sensors in the road), cameras, and/or “other data obtainable from sensors embedded at the intersections.” The communications system may use Wi-Fi technologies, a cellular network, or satellite communications.
In one proposed model the method would be made available as a “service” that vehicle drivers would need to sign up for. The stop/start-engine notifications could switch the engine off and on automatically, or they could trigger alerts to the driver to turn it off/on manually.
The idea is at the patent application stage, and the patent only covers the method but not the communications technology. Many patent applications never proceed any further, and only time will tell if this will be one of them.
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May 26, 2010
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We really need a technology which will further congest our highway intersections.
May 26, 2010
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I'm a bit biased though, I'm more of a fan of less road regulation with a more robust and directional system.
May 26, 2010
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It's not a stretch of the imagination to assume this technology will be abused by the technologically savvy.
May 26, 2010
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A better solution= (1) switch fuel sources and (2) recapture ideal energy.
May 26, 2010
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It's called OnStar, U-Connect, and whatever the other manufacturers call it.
That technology is already in the wild. I don't fear it, unless it becomes abused. In which case I'll disable the antenna.
May 26, 2010
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Just like people were able to over-ride and pirate Satellite TV - someone with more intelligence than wisdom will hack this also, and shut down a major interstate - just for kicks.
I swear, some folks who come up with this stuff are not being properly managed towards more useful purposes.
May 26, 2010
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May 26, 2010
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With this system in place emergency vehicles would be at the mercy of the traffic lights just like the rest of us because we wouldn't be able to get out of their way.
May 26, 2010
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The car engine stops, and it doesn't restart.
Even if that applied to only one car in a thousand it will result in chaos.
May 26, 2010
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May 27, 2010
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How many people will keep and/or buy older less effeceint vehicles to avoid this silliness? I will!
Should be interesting with no AC in Vegas, Joshua Tree, Arizona and Reno where summertime temps exceed 115 degrees! Not to mention in FLA humidity!
May 27, 2010
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May 27, 2010
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That's entirely wrong.
May 27, 2010
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@jd111358: these 'excessive starts' happen all the time for hybrid cars like the fusion, prius, etc.
@SteveL: If A/C or heat is needed (and requires a running engine), existing hybrids do not shut off.
@Javinator: Most lights have override systems for emergency vehicles.
This is not about the stoplight killing your engine (which the crappy title suggests). It's about giving your car information on whether or not it is "worth it" to stop your engine at a light. The article mentions a > 2min wait time in case you just read the title and skimmed the article. This system would also give plenty of time to restart the engine before the light turns green. And for those who want the "right" to waste fuel at a stoplight, I'm sure there will be an override switch for you to exercise that right.
May 28, 2010
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actually if you run into a gass station for less than four minutes its better to leave your car running than restart you use ALOT of gas to start your car excessively so.
excessive starts do not happen all the time in hybrids
but you are right this is about giving your car more information if it is worth keeping your engine running and allowing it to make the decision.
I have been in a few big cities and have never NEVER waited for 2 minutes at a light
May 28, 2010
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May 29, 2010
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We don't need a gizmo to start and stop our motors constantly. The problem is if something can remotely stop a car's motor, then anyone can stop it. Like cops and car jackers to name a couple. I don't want that in my car.
May 29, 2010
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OnStar can do that now, which is why I will never buy a car with OnStar. Strangely, most people don't see that as a problem.
May 29, 2010
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Just like the Hilary Lock in a gun, I would never buy a car so equipped....
Ever drive a car to the repair shop with a dead battery? I had one fail at a traffic light just a block or so before I got to the shop. Dropped a flare and popped the hood while waiting (bless my cell phone) for a hook. Some idiot pulled up behind me, OVER TOP OF THE FLARE, and started blowing his horn.... I was praying :D .... (The Township PD showed up and "blocked" me for a couple minutes, fortunately.)
I like the idea of an OWNER to request On-Star to kill an engine in a stolen vehicle, but that scares me, too. I won't be buying those either.
May 29, 2010
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Absolutely, but the problem is most people lately CHOOSE not to think for themselves.
What is a person who pretty much does the predictable friday/saturday/sunday night bar/club thing every week, and similar things, OTHER than a stupid cattle? They ARE stupid cattle, which is very much most of humanity...
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I will say this, for shipping companies, Mythbusters PROVED that for a route in a city with optimum driving distance giving roughly equal turns left and right, you actually waste more fuel waiting to make a left hand turn than if you made 3 right hand turns, driving around the block. Moreover, in their test, it was a "worst case scenario" for the "right turn only" strategy, and the strategy still worked, using 2lbs less fuel for delivery to the same 6 addresses...
So sitting in traffic at lights actually uses about 3 times as much fuel as the drive itself.
May 29, 2010
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Mythbusters proof doesn't always stand up to real solid measurement, although I think they got it close enough in this case. However, having a vehicle turned off at the light (was it Honda who made a car that did it for you a while back?) is probably asking for further problems, wear, etc., with little benefit that properly timed lights wouldn't provide. "Right turn on red" seems to help a lot, and that may be why the Mythbusters kids got some advantage there, too. And, as a sidebar, it's interesting to note that an ordinary car didn't fare nearly as well on this test. The van is just a different type of vehicle, and driving techniques are different.
Anyway, it may be better to set lights up so they don't cycle if cars aren't present.... Why do you sit there and wait for a light to change at 0430 when the only one around is you and the LEO behind the billboard? Seems to me it would be better to let the light see you coming and set itself for you....
May 30, 2010
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Let's not forget that every time an engine is shut off, a small percentage of them WON'T start back up. Imagine how much fuel would be wasted by all the stalled vehicles at lights and the traffic jams they'll cause.
This is truly a bad idea. Again, broadcast the timing and let each vehicle make it's own decision.
May 30, 2010
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However, due to the inadequacy of batteries as well as "onboard" solar panels, I've also thought of certain projects for future electric vehicles. I know of several solutions to the "limited range" of electric automobiles, but I should perhaps patent the idea (if it doesn't infringe on something already patented.)
The problem with the transportation issue is that it is very difficult at this point to install new transportation infrastructures of the type "somebody" will one day need, and do so in a "backwards compatible" manner that still supports older automobiles until their expected life-time has expired.
I have thought of several "simple" infrastructure options based directly on existing technologies with NO major change in principle or application, only location and frequency of said systems.
I.e. replace wheeled automobiles with mag-lev automobiles on mag-lev super highways.
May 31, 2010
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Why doesn't this company work on solutions to help the homeless here in America, or target the real contributors of fuel consumption such as factories? A company with the resources that IBM has could do a lot of good and instead they are spending research dollars to come up with ways to control my personal property. Maybe IBM should just buy everyone in America a new hybrid vehicle, because that would really have a positive impact. Oh, silly me, that interferes with their true goal to make money rather than actually conserve anything.
May 31, 2010
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However, the stop/start function is a good idea, though not with current cars. Some newer cars, including hybrids, already have this function as part of the vehicle's normal operation. The engine/transmission system is specifically designed for efficient stop/start operation, which means extra engine wear isn't a problem. As more and more of these types of vehicles come on stream, the type of draconian interference detailed in this article will happily not be needed.
May 31, 2010
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DING DING! You win the $64 question!
That is capitalism, a.k.a. "We gotcha by the nuts sheople."
Capitalism is, "We could do this for $300, but we shall charge $1000 just becaue we can. God bless America!"
May 31, 2010
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Socialism is "We did this for $300, but we will force you to buy it for $1000 just because we can."
The faulty logic is thinking that the problem is captialism or socialism. The true problem is that man is always greedy.
At least with capitalism, you can chose not to buy from him.
Jun 01, 2010
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