Skulls show New World was settled twice: study

June 14, 2010
Skulls show New World was settled twice: study

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Representation of the geographic dispersion models tested for the occupation of the Americas. (see scientific paper for details).

Two distinct groups from Asia settled in the New World and not one single migration as suggested by previous genetic studies, experts said Monday after comparing the skulls of early Americans.

Paleoanthropologists from Brazil, Chile and Germany compared the skulls of several dozen Paleoamericans, dating back to the early days of migration 11,000 years ago, with the more recent remains of more than 300 Amerindians.

"We found that the differences between Early and Late Native American groups match the predictions of a two-migration scenario far better than they do those of any other hypothesis," they said.

"In other words, these differences are so large that it is highly improbable that the earliest inhabitants of the New World were the direct ancestors of recent Native American populations."

Their landmark research found differences in the cranial morphology that could only be explained by the fact that the last of the Early and Late Native American groups came from outside the continent.

The experts agreed the differences were best explained by a scenario in which a first wave of settlers came across the Bering Strait from Northeast Asia followed by a second group from East Asia much later via the same route.

"We conclude that the morphological diversity documented through time in the New World is best accounted for by a model postulating two waves of human expansion into the continent originating in East Asia and entering through Beringia," they said.

"This disparity between our results and those of most points to a large gap in our understanding of the peopling of the New World."

More information: PloS ONE paper: http://www.plosone … pone.0011105

(c) 2010 AFP

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Caliban
Jun 14, 2010

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Yes, and there was very likely also an admixture of european peoples along the atlantic coast seaway(and probably even further south) during the last ice age, as well.

Unfortunately, the collapse of native populations in the new world with the arrival of modern europeans due to(principally) the ravages of disease, has left very little available to us by way of intact DNA in amounts statistically significant to properly map distribution of haplotypes, et c in those populations.

Since there are very few people-especially in N. America- of pure Amerind stock we will never have more than at best a very limited and incomplete picture of the genetic composition of the New World's population, and therefor its ultimate origins.
deatopmg
Jun 14, 2010

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And what of the ca 9500 yr old Kenwick skeletons that are clearly occidental?? Were these occidentals from the orient (Ainu or similar occidentals on Taiwan) or Europe??
SumGuy
Jun 15, 2010

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Just don't tell native american/canadian indians that they are descended from asia. They believe in a mystical ancestry completely separate from human evolution. The idea that they too came to north america just like others from europe did centuries later rubs them the wrong way.
SumGuy
Jun 15, 2010

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Unfortunately, the collapse of native populations in the new world with the arrival of modern europeans due to(principally) the ravages of disease, has left very little available to us by way of intact DNA in amounts statistically significant to properly map distribution of haplotypes, et c in those populations.

It doesn't help that so-called "native" amerindians thwart all attempts for science to study their old bones and DNA to help establish their true historical past, because it erodes their popular mythology that some mystical creator brought them into existance directly onto the north american continent.

LuckyBrandon
Jun 15, 2010

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sumguy--actually a lot of native religions have a similar story to the bible...for instance the blackfeet tribe (whom have a reservation in montana THROUGH british columbia) says napi (old man) made man from the mud of the river if I remember right (its been many many years since my grandmother told me the story). And another story on how death came into existence being the choice of a mother whose child was hurt and death resulted because she believed a stone would float in the river....
in other words, native beliefs are, for the most part, no different than the many many other religions in the world.
But, these are ancient beliefs...don't apply ancient beliefs to today's day and age.

also, it is NOT a matter of keeping some ancient belief...its a matter of respect. There was a day (not long ago) where all bodies were burned 6 feet above the ground on a platform so the spirit had less distance to travel, so to speak, so the bodies you are talking about were burned long long ago
fmfbrestel
Jun 15, 2010

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im pretty sure "we" have taken enough from them to leave their ancestors properly resting in the ground. Some curious white men have been taking from them for the last 400 years.
LRW
Jun 15, 2010

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The earliest immigrants to the Americas left the now submerged Sundaland during the same epoch that populated Australia.
We are talking more than 40,000 years ago---the 15000 year old Clovis migration was a bunch of Johny-Come-Latelys.
LRW
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See Schoch book "Voyages of the Pyramid Builders". Sundaland is the source of the earliest population of America---contemporary withthe populating of Australia--40,000 years ago. Clovis was like yesterday.
The evidence is in caves in South America.
Shootist
Jun 20, 2010

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The earliest immigrants to the Americas left the now submerged Sundaland during the same epoch that populated Australia.
We are talking more than 40,000 years ago---the 15000 year old Clovis migration was a bunch of Johny-Come-Latelys.


Louis Leakey, the old man, not the son Richard, believe humans arrived in the New World much earlier than commonly supposed.

I don't think Clovis was a migration, just a common point technology.
croghan27
Jun 21, 2010

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im pretty sure "we" have taken enough from them to leave their ancestors properly resting in the ground. Some curious white men have been taking from them for the last 400 years.


Good point fmf - I have often wonder how the Egyptians feel about the messing about with the bones of their pharaohs.

Does the fact that they are seen by some as artifacts negate the fact that they were people too?

Certainly arrogance on the part of investigators must play a part in the Amerindian reluctance to allow mucking about with their ancestors.

Occasionally you see a story of how some European great light, saint or otherwise, is reverentially moved to another burial site - is the same respect accorded to 'the lesser races'?
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