Indonesia's last glacier will melt within years

July 1, 2010 By ROBIN McDOWELL , Associated Press Writer
Indonesia's last glacier will melt within years (AP)

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This undated photo released by Papua Project Freeport-McMoRan shows glaciers on Puncak Jaya, mountains in eastern Indonesia. "These glaciers are dying," Lonnie Thompson, one of the world's most accomplished glaciologists, said Wednesday, June 30, 2010, after wrapping up a 13-day trip to Puncak Jaya, rarely visited even by local tribesman. "Before I was thinking they had a few decades, but now I'd say we're looking at years." (AP Photo/Papua Project Freeport McMoRan)

(AP) -- Lonnie Thompson spent years preparing for his expedition to the remote, mist-shrouded mountains of eastern Indonesia, hoping to chronicle the affect of global warming on the last remaining glacier in the Pacific. He's worried he got there too late.

Even as he pitched his tent on top of Puncak Jaya, the ice was melting beneath him.

The 3-mile- (4,884-meter-) high glacier was pounded by rain every afternoon during the team's 13-day trip, something the American scientist has never encountered in three decades of drilling ice cores. He lay awake at night listening to the water gushing beneath him.

By the time they were ready to head home, ice around their sheltered campsite had melted a staggering 12 inches (30 centimeters).

"These glaciers are dying," said Thompson, one of the world's most accomplished glaciologists. "Before I was thinking they had a few decades, but now I'd say we're looking at years."

Thompson has led 57 such expeditions in 16 countries around the planet, from China to Peru.

But for him, the Papuan glaciers, because they lie along the fringe of the world's warmest ocean and could provide clues about regional weather patterns, were an unexplored "missing link."

It is this region that generates disturbances and influences climate from India's monsoons to the Amazon's droughts.

As such, it is one of the only "archives" about the story of the equatorial phenomenon, said Michael Prentice of the Indiana Geological Survey, who has long been interested in the area. It also could point to what lies ahead for billions of people in Asia.

The ice that covered much of Papua thousands of years ago is today just 1 square mile (2 square kilometers) wide and 32 yards (meters) deep. Deep crevasses crisscross the dirty ice.

Glaciers worldwide are in retreat, with major losses already seen across much of Alaska, the Alps, the Andes and numerous other ranges. What makes Puncak Jaya different, aside from its location in the Pacific, is just how little is known about it.

Research permits to work in Papua are difficult to obtain, in part because Indonesia's government is hugely sensitive to the region's long-simmering insurgency. Foreign journalists are barred and humanitarian groups are restricted.

It is also one of the most isolated corners of the sprawling archipelagic nation.

The U.S. mining company Freeport-McMoRan, operating nearby, helped airlift the team to Puncak Jaya's heights by helicopter, along with four tons of equipment - from electromechanical and thermal drill systems, to radars needed to map the underlying rock, said one of its employees, Scott Hanna.

There was a winch and cables, high-altitude camping gear and boxes to preserve ice samples, which will eventually join 70,000 yards (meters) of tropical cores being kept in cold storage in Columbus, Ohio.

There, glaciologists will help analyze the ice layer by layer through centuries past.

Flecks of dust, falling seasonally, enable them to count down the years, much like tree rings. Isotopes of oxygen, in minute air bubbles trapped in the ice, vary with temperature helping researchers understand how ancient weather shifted.

"I just hope we weren't too late," said Thompson, 62, adding that in addition to melting from the top, water likely seeped in to the base of the glacier, leaving them with limited records from a section of time.

"But still, the have horizontal layers all the way through, so I think we were able to salvage at least a little bit of the climate history," said Thompson of Ohio State University, who co-coordinated the expedition with Dwi Susanto of Columbia University.

Among other things, the team expects to find volcanic ash from past eruptions - the 1883 blast of Krakatau and Tambora in 1815 should help serve as timelines - soot from wildfires, pollen, plant debris and maybe even frozen animals.

Satellite images and aerial photos have long shown the glacier in rapid retreat.

The mountain has lost about 80 percent of its ice since 1936 - two-thirds of that since the last scientific expedition in the early 1970s.

Thompson says he thinks temperatures are rising twice as fast in high altitudes as at the earth's surface, which, if true, could have broad implications on people who depend on for water during the dry season, such as in the Himalayas.

Geoffrey Hope, a professor at Australian National University who took part in the 1971 expedition to Puncak Jaya, noted that Papua has the wettest mountain region in the world, so high precipitation levels didn't come as a great surprise.

Still, his own experience was markedly different.

"The roof of our marque tent fell in on many evenings due to the weight of the snow," he recalled, "and all water coming from the glacier would freeze by 8 p.m. each night."

More information: http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/blog/tag/indonesia-puncak-jaya/
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TegiriNenashi
Jul 01, 2010

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Papua is an island, so wouldn't the local climate affected mostly by surrounding ocean? Then, wouldn't it be more reliable just to measure water temperature directly instead of inventing some goofy temperature proxies?
GSwift7
Jul 01, 2010

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Yes, and besides that, it doesn't make sense that a one degree increase in temperature has had this much of an effect. There must be other factors with a larger influence at work here, such as wind velocity, air density, relative humidity, average daily sun exposure, etc. They're so focused on temperature change that they often ignore all the other factors. All those other factors just don't fit the anti-CO2 agenda though.

Have you noticed that EVERY area where ice is melting supposedly is more sensitive to global warming than any other area of the world? First the arctic, then antarctic, now the tropics too. lol.
GSwift7
Jul 02, 2010

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"Thompson says he thinks temperatures are rising twice as fast in high altitudes as at the earth's surface, which, if true, could have broad implications on people who depend on glaciers for water during the dry season, such as in the Himalayas"

But the Himalayan glaciers aren't melting, and neither are the ones in Alaska.
thermodynamics
Jul 03, 2010

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GSwift7: The glaciers are melting in both Alaska and the Himalayan regions. They are just not melting as fast as the idiots in the IPCC said they were. However, they are melting according to the most recent data:

http://arctic.atm...osphere/

Of course the rates are not monotonic and progressive (being influenced by weather and ocean currents). However, if you look a little deeper you will see there are some glaciers in Alaska that are growing and some in the Himalayas that are growing but most are shrinking. Take a look at the near-real-time-data and see for yourself.
Jigga
Jul 03, 2010

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Effective glacier thinning

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