Finding frugal aliens: 'Benford beacons' concept could refocus search for intelligent extraterrestrial life
July 20, 2010 by Tom Vasich
Astrophysicist Gregory Benford — standing before the UCI Observatory — believes an alien civilization would transmit “cost-optimized” signals rather than the kind sought for decades by the SETI Institute. Photo: Steve Zylius
(PhysOrg.com) -- For 50 years, humans have scanned the skies with radio telescopes for distant electronic signals indicating the existence of intelligent alien life. The search — centered at the SETI Institute in Mountain View, Calif. — has tapped into our collective fascination with the concept that we may not be alone in the universe.
But the effort has so far proved fruitless, and the scientific community driving the SETI project has begun questioning its methodology, which entails listening to specific nearby stars for unusual blips or bleeps. Is there a better approach?
UC Irvine astrophysicist Gregory Benford and his twin, James — a fellow physicist specializing in high-powered microwave technology - believe there is, and their ideas are garnering attention.
In two studies appearing in the June issue of the journal Astrobiology, the Benford brothers, along with James’ son Dominic, a NASA scientist, examine the perspective of a civilization sending signals into space - or, as Gregory Benford puts it, “the point of view of the guys paying the bill.”
“Our grandfather used to say, ‘Talk is cheap, but whiskey costs money,’” the physics professor says. “Whatever the life form, evolution selects for economy of resources. Broadcasting is expensive, and transmitting signals across light-years would require considerable resources.”
Assuming that an alien civilization would strive to optimize costs, limit waste and make its signaling technology more efficient, the Benfords propose that these signals would not be continuously blasted out in all directions but rather would be pulsed, narrowly directed and broadband in the 1-to-10-gigahertz range.
“This approach is more like Twitter and less like War and Peace, ” says James Benford, founder and president of Microwave Sciences Inc. in Lafayette, Calif.
Their concept of short, targeted blips — dubbed “Benford beacons” by the science press — has gotten extensive coverage in such publications as Astronomy Now. Well-known cosmologist Paul Davies, in his 2010 book The Eerie Silence: Renewing Our Search for Alien Intelligence, supports the theory.
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James Benford discussing beacons
This means that SETI — which focuses its receivers on narrow-band input — may be looking for the wrong kind of signals. The Benfords and a growing number of scientists involved in the hunt for extraterrestrial life advocate adjusting SETI receivers to maximize their ability to detect direct, broadband beacon blasts.But where to look? The Benfords’ frugal-alien model points to our own Milky Way galaxy, especially the center, where 90 percent of its stars are clustered.
“The stars there are a billion years older than our sun, which suggests a greater possibility of contact with an advanced civilization than does pointing SETI receivers outward to the newer and less crowded edge of our galaxy,” Gregory Benford says.
“Will searching for distant messages work? Is there intelligent life out there? The SETI effort is worth continuing, but our common-sense beacons approach seems more likely to answer those questions.”
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Mostly, we have been searching stars within our local stellar neighborhood for signals.
Besides which, searching for signals 30,000 light years away (center of the galaxy) is far less effective for a back and forth conversation than searching 10-50 light years away. A response to the center of the galaxy would (most likely) reach our "friends" after our civilization is destroyed (30,000 years ago we were scraping the ground with flint tools during an ice age).
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More probably, an advanced civilization might send information embedded in some tough, physical form, like a spore with jokes in its DNA. Well, maybe not jokes - you know humor doesn't translate well between cultures. Has anybody checked the junk DNA of viruses and spores for traces of the pi sequence?
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my point was only that if aliens are using unidirectional signals _and_ they think the same thing--that the center is where to look, or where to send their signals, then we wouldn't even see a signal from next door if it is a beam towards the center. The argument of the article is that aliens might be using unidirectional beams rather than omnidirectional broadcasts. It would stand to reason that then we would only "see" signals from the other side of the galaxy that line up with us and the center...and as you point out, a very difficult task with the distances and interference.
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Outside of time and penetrates everything and anything.
And that is where you will find their communications.
Won't you?
You won't know until you look it up.
Too add... 'open public science' is always decades behind private, military and/or government research, so consider that I do know what I'm talking about and begin researching it. 'Public science' is not the bleeding edge -and never will be.
Here comes the low marks on this post! Go ahead, like water off a duck's back..I'm used to it and it means nothing to me. I'm talking to the few who are paying attention. Not the rest.
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Since we are not within the line of sight of such a transmission (and insisde the relevant range) the galaxy could be filled with an abundant amount of messages and we'd never get a whiff of it. I find the assumption that aliens are transmitting in all directions at max power dubious at best. Why would they do that?
All this is assuming they don't have something better than radio waves. If they have close to speed of light travel (or even FTL) then courier drones are likely to be better than transmissions. Also this would be safe from eavesdropping (short of physical interception of the drone)
SETI is trying to listen for spacefaring-but-technologically-hopelessly-backwards-aliens. That never sounded right to me.
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Perhaps we ought to start there: how would we communicate with such a flint-scraper?
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For what point and purpose? Seriously: aliens that are that far ahead have no reason to communicate with us.
Do we try to talk to ameoba or ants? No.
The center is a dicey place. Stars close together (which means lots of radiation) and a very high probability that one of them goes bang every few thousand years (which sterilizes anything within a few light years radius). If alien life is anything as fragile as ours then it certainly isn't anywhere near the center of the galaxy.
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The idea of directed communication by ETI has been around for a while. This 1998 paper looks at technical aspects of optical(& IR) SETI: http://seti.harva...tech.pdf .Dedicated telescopes for optical/IR SETI are being built or already exist. And suitably equipped amateur astronomers are also joining the search (as is, IIRC, SETI@Home). Seems like a longshot IMHO, but a gigahertz search, if you can raise funds, why not?
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God made the earth to be inhabited by those bearing his image and they sinned far too early for any migration to other stars and planets to have happened.
Hence, we are alone in the universe created by God.
Christ couldn't have died for any alien since such an alien would possibly not have sinned - sin is an earth original. Yet ALL of creation was put under the curse because of man's sin, and it would have been unfair for aliens to suffer because of man's sin.
Thus - Christ died for the redemption of man and the rest of un-inhabited creation alone.
There aren't any aliens so it would save a lot of energy to stop looking for them. Of course, if people insist on looking, we might discover new ways to communicate using the new-found tech we're busy inventing.
OK, you can throw stones and bricks and flints now.
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From the abstract: "We propose that a sufficiently advanced civilization may employ Cepheid variable stars as beacons to transmit all-call information throughout the galaxy and beyond. One can construct many scenarios wherein it would be desirable for such a civilization of star ticklers to transmit data to anyone else within viewing range. We propose that these (and other regularly variable types of stars) be searched for signs of phase modulation (in the regime of short pulse duration) and patterns, which could be indicative of intentional signaling." Out past the Virgo Cluster!
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Abstract: "We examine the possibility to employ neutrinos to communicate within the galaxy. We discuss various issues associated with transmission and reception, and suggest that the resonant neutrino energy near 6.3 PeV may be most appropriate."
Both are speculative studies of course. But I think they show willingness to explore new ideas on the topic of interstellar communication.
"He tried blocking the waves with the entire table of elements and aluminum is the only thing that stopped it." Time to exchange tin foil for the aluminum foil hats? ;)
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That said, keep searching. Always keep searching. Science (IMHO) is searching, from the smallest to the largest.
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its a waste of tax dollars other than SETI
given the distances involved the lag between messages would be too dysfunctional...
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However my bet is on QEC (quantum entanglement communication) A civilization even a few years more advanced may have already established the "Galactic Web" with QEC.
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While some of these are more speculative and lie in the future, looking for signatures of "non-natural planetary atmospheric constituents" (think Freon, etc.) is or soon will be possible via spectroscopy. This would be similar to what charleslucas posted above, but in this case it is us looking for signatures of a technological civilizations in the spectra of exoplanets. This would be very doable.
A modified Drake Equation is also used to evaluate the challenges among the various scenarios.
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According to some, we have already been "entangled": http://www.americ...w/153365
"There are over 27 species above in the global fleet or the Star Fleet Command above." (I keed, I keed)
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Or they simply gear the power output to the distance to the receiver. It's simply wastefull to blast messages at a level that is discernible hundreads of light years past the intended destination. Not even we do this on earth.
And no - our signals from the early days of radio/TV will not be picked up by aliens. At the signal strength we've been transmitting further than 2 light years out the signal strength is already below what a even thoretically optimal receivers could pick up.
Why would we (or SETI) expect aliens to use a lot higher energies during their 'phase of visibility'? I don't get it.
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*They might want to talk to us for social studies experiments. Every culture, no matter how primitive, has something to teach.
"I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him."
-Galileo Galilei
* They probably use a method of communication so far beyond what we know, that we could be flooded with transmissions and not even notice. We think it takes a lot of power and time for intergalactic messages to be sent, but that may be the case with our methods only.
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UFOs if real are most likely inter-dimensional as that gets rid of the FTL problem.
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This article really reminds me of the short story "The Human Legacy Project":
http://www.living...ect.html